Quote (t8 @ April 07 2011,19:38)I think Kathi's post/PM is good and what she said is fair and true.As a moderator I do have to chastise someone for divulging a PM as they are meant to be personal, but Kathi only showed the content that she wrote which she has every right to make public and so she hasn't erred here either from what I can see.Also,…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 07 2011,16:59)Quote (Lightenup @ April 07 2011,16:30)Two Gods that are consubstantial.  One from the other…God from God…one being from the other.  That is what consubstantial is.It is all about context.  The two are of one nature.  It's the Father's being that the Son is of, and each are distinct beings.  On…[Read more]

Princess,What am I wrong about? You are the one that said that you 'heard' that I hurt someone. Did you bother to consider there were two sides to the matter and that maybe the person and I should work it out without you making a verdict against me from your one sided view? You didn't even bother to ask my view, you just thought that you should…[Read more]

Two Gods that are consubstantial. One from the other…God from God…one being from the other. That is what consubstantial is.It is all about context. The two are of one nature. It's the Father's being that the Son is of, and each are distinct beings. One is begotten from the other as is consistent with the church fathers and the term…[Read more]

Keith,A person is a being.The Spirit is the Spirit of the FatherThe Son is the Son.The Father is the being that the Son is from, by begettal, the Spirit is from the being of the Father also, but as an extension of the Father Himself. The Spirit is not begotten but brought forth.The Spirit is not another being, He is an extension of the Father and…[Read more]

Karmarie,She was talking about what she 'heard' not about what she 'said' to anyone. She is the one that said she 'heard.' So, someone had to tell her in order for her to have 'heard.' The link was about the dangers of gossip, both speaking it and listening to it and judging someone by it. I never said that she spoke the gossip nor did I say…[Read more]

Jack,Quote Shouldn't Jesus be the Firstborn in the same way that He is the Heir…by appointment?No, not necessarily.There is your answer.Kathi

Keith,The Father is naturally of His own being, the Son is of the Father's being, and the Spirit is of the Father's being also. That is consubstantiality.Stick with this one thing till we nail this down, ok.Kathi

Keith,Consubstantiality is a term used in Latin Christian christology, coined by Tertullian in Against Hermogenes 44, used to translate the Greek term homoousios. “Consubstantiality” describes the relationship among the Divine persons of the Christian Trinity and connotes that God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit are “of one being”…[Read more]

Keith,Quote Neither do they believe the Father and Son are 2 gods or beings.Do you believe in God the Father Almighty?Do you believe in God the Son Almighty?Kathi

Hi Keith and Jack,I have made a topic that is about that here:https://www.heavennet.net/cgi-bin….73;st=0I have come to understand what some mean by that terms eternal generation and eternally begotten. The understanding differs from person to person.This is what I used to think it meant:The Son was always begotten and co-existed with the Father…[Read more]

Jack, Was 'the Word' from the first person, second person, or third person? What do you think?Also, what do you think he was appointed heir of in Heb. 1?The fallible father that you refer to is much more knowledgeable than I am and he confirms generally what I understand. You ought to read more of his…[Read more]

Well, now that the link is up there correctly three times, maybe it will work like a charm

Here it is Keith,I went back and fixed it.http://www.gotquestions.org/gossip-Bible.htmlThanks!Kathi

Hi Istari,I know that we do not understand the same way. Perhaps you might enjoy reading this:http://www.reformedreader.org/rbb/gill/eternalsonshipofchrist.htmAs you can see, this disagreement has been going on for centuries. I am certainly not alone in my general understanding.BTW, read John Gill's writings for some help with your…[Read more]

Thanks Keith and William! I agree.

Princess,Have no fear, no one is being run off the board by me,  just asking for accountability, that's all.  I did not instigate this.You said:Quote LU you do have a tendency to do such things, this is not the first time I have heard of this. how you have hurt another person in such a way. Really, have I ever hurt you in anyway, if so how?  If yo…[Read more]

Dennison,

Thanks Dennison-son,I know that you would like the drama, not me Kathi

Hi William and all,I am the one that emailed her in response to a PM that she sent me in regards to this post below and my response to it. And I never said that she shouldn't be here one way or another. I don't know if you read one of her very first posts but it was a railing judgement of many of us, myself included. I will quote it here for…[Read more]