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Lightenup replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 1 month ago
Ok, Istari, ha…syntax is something about studying the logic of grammar structure. Well, I have never had a discussion about syntax. You can enlighten me if you would like…if you are bored today
or you can pass me by on this, either way that's fine. I really don't know how talking about syntax is going to help me understand the truth of…[Read more]Lightenup replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 1 month ago
Istari,Only Begotten Son of Goda name?a title?or a relationship?I say relationship. You must believe that He is the 'only' begotten Son of God. His relationship to God is that of the only one truly begotten from Him, as true of a Son as one can be. That is a big difference than merely believing that He is 'a' begotten son of God. There are…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 1 month ago
Angels are not begotten from anyone. Angels could only be begotten from other angels if it were possible. Angels are not self-existent…only God is. God begets God, God does not beget angels…He created them. Angels are not born again, only man is born again…begotten from the dead by the Son who is the giver of eternal life into the…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 1 month ago
Quote (Istari @ April 10 2011,14:49)Mike,Even John 2:22 fastforwards to the Disciples 'Remembering what Jesus HAD SAID to them'.And 3:35 states that 'the Father HAS given ALL THINGS into his (Jesus) Hand', yet we know that it was not so until after he was risen!Following on in verse 36: 'He who BELIEVES in the Son has everlasting life; And he who…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 1 month ago
Istari,Jesus, according to the flesh was led by the Spirit. After He was risen, according to His flesh, He received the ok to give the Father's Spirit, together with the Spirit of the Son so that they would both dwell within the believers…by their spirit called 'the Comforter.'Kathi
Lightenup replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 1 month ago
Istari,Only non-created beings existed before creation. Angels were not self-existing and did not exist before creation.Kathi
Lightenup replied to the topic Is jesus god the angel?? in the forum The Hot Seat 15 years, 1 month ago
Jesus is THE gate.Jesus is THE vine.Jesus is THE shepherd.And I can prove it with scripture
evenJesus is the Angel of GodDon't miss the message here.Does Jesus have a gate nature?Does Jesus have the nature of a vine?Does Jesus have the nature of an angel?orDoes Jesus have the nature of a God?Whichever it is, then He is that by nature and then you…[Read more]Lightenup replied to the topic Exposing freak greek in the forum Scriptural Teachings 15 years, 1 month ago
Quote (Lightenup @ April 05 2011,21:03)Hi Dennison,Just wondering if you have a response to my last post on the previous page. KathiSon-Long headache

Lightenup replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 1 month ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 10 2011,10:24)Quote (Istari @ April 10 2011,09:05)I genuinely state that I cannot see what your issue is. How can I answer a question that has no point to it. I would have to either see the fallacy that you see or else 'pretend' to see it and produce dishonest answers – just to argue a case!!Okay. I'll accept that you…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Truthful answers in the forum View Points 15 years, 1 month ago
One of you just step up and walk away…let God be your witness and get busy proclaiming His mercy and love and the reason for it. He loves each of you and all of us more than we deserve. He has shown me His loving smile this week…look for His smile to you. When you start looking up you stop putting down. Please! Kathi
Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 15 years, 1 month ago
Welcome LaDon,I would be happy to discuss with you. Thanks for all your thoughts. I'll try to keep my answers simple because the gospel is simple, really…and I believe that the whole Bible is inspired by God and inerrant in the original languages. There are many good translations out there and I like the NASB but I use others as well. All…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 15 years, 1 month ago
Welcome LaDon,I would be happy to discuss with you. Thanks for all your thoughts. I'll try to keep my answers simple because the gospel is simple, really…and I believe that the whole Bible is inspired by God and inerrant in the original languages. There are many good translations out there and I like the NASB but I use others as well. All…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 1 month ago
Hi Mike,I'm going to make you find it and bring it up, ha.Sorry…just a little smirky
Lightenup replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 1 month ago
That's fine Mike. See you there.Kathi
Lightenup replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 1 month ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 08 2011,23:04)Quote (Lightenup @ April 08 2011,21:33)Have you ever understood that the three are of one being, not are one being. That is according to this definition. You just take out the word 'of' and you get a completely different idea…one little word.Yeah, I've had many a conversation about that little two l…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 1 month ago
Quote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ April 08 2011,10:19)Kathi said:Quote It's the Father's being that the Son is of, and each are distinct beings.Come on Kathi!Being = essenceBeing 2 The qualities or constitution of an existent thing (Webster's)Being 2 Essential nature, substance (Funk and Wagnall's)I am the same being as my father because I possess the…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Kathi and jack only in the forum The Hot Seat 15 years, 1 month ago
Jack,I answered one question, now I ask a question, that is what you said. Here is your question:Was 'the Word' from the first person, second person, or third person? What do you think?Thanks,Kathi
Lightenup replied to the topic Sophia for moderator in the forum Feedback, Suggestions, & Features 15 years, 1 month ago
Quote (t8 @ April 08 2011,05:54)Quote (karmarie @ April 08 2011,13:39)I personally love Princess. So please all, leave her alone. Shes done nothing wrong and neither have I and neither has Sophia.It is not noble when you publicly make a judgement against people with no proof and when you hold them to account for what they said, they then play the…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Sophia for moderator in the forum Feedback, Suggestions, & Features 15 years, 1 month ago
Princess,You advise a humble and loving heart…I take that to mean that you are sorry for smearing gossip that you heard. Ok, so I am just imagining that you might humble yourself. That is better than nothing. I'll go with that. Peace.
Lightenup replied to the topic Sophia for moderator in the forum Feedback, Suggestions, & Features 15 years, 1 month ago
Princess and Sophia has done nothing wrong
Open your eyes Karmarie.They missed a step or two with their hurtful posts.Matt 18:15-17″If your brother sins, go and show him his fault in private; if he listens to you, you have won your brother. But if he does not listen to you, take one or two more with you, so that BY THE MOUTH OF TWO OR THREE…[Read more]- Load More

