Quote (t8 @ April 15 2011,02:25)Quote (Lightenup @ April 15 2011,16:25)I don't recall if this verse was mentioned but I think that it is pretty clear that the Son of God is not considered an angel.Tell you what, if I show you one verse that says otherwise, then what would you do about that?t8,There is only one way to find out

Quote (betweenchristendomandjws @ April 15 2011,01:46)Quote (Lightenup @ April 15 2011,16:17)This is a good passage here:1 Cor 6:16-20  16Or do you not know that the one who joins himself to a prostitute is one body with her? For He says, “THE TWO SHALL BECOME ONE FLESH.” 17But the one who joins himself to the Lord is one spirit with Him. 18[Read more]

Quote (theodorej @ April 15 2011,08:44)Quote (Lightenup @ April 15 2011,16:17)This is a good passage here:1 Cor 6:16-20  16Or do you not know that the one who joins himself to a prostitute is one body with her? For He says, “THE TWO SHALL BECOME ONE FLESH.” 17But the one who joins himself to the Lord is one spirit with Him. 18Flee immorality. Ever…[Read more]

Quote (Baker @ April 14 2011,09:18)To All!  I had asked Georg, if He thought Jesus was an Angel.  His rely was this, and I quote:”  Is and was Jesus a Spirit Being?  Yes, He was… Are the Angels Spirit Beings?  Yes, they are.  are they all called Son's of God?  Yes they are. What we do have to remember that there are levels of greatness.  Jesus…[Read more]

I don't recall if this verse was mentioned but I think that it is pretty clear that the Son of God is not considered an angel.”But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father alone. If the Son was an angel then saying 'nor the Son' would be redundant.

This is a good passage here:1 Cor 6:16-20 16Or do you not know that the one who joins himself to a prostitute is one body with her? For He says, “THE TWO SHALL BECOME ONE FLESH.” 17But the one who joins himself to the Lord is one spirit with Him. 18Flee immorality. Every other sin that a man commits is outside the body, but the immoral man sin…[Read more]

Quote (Baker @ April 14 2011,18:24)Quote (Lightenup @ April 15 2011,07:10)Hi Irene,The scientist would have told Eve that she was older than 1 day when she only existed for 1 day so I choose to think that God can make an earth that is far younger but seem far older too.  I think the earth is less than 10,000 years old.  Death came from the sin i…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 14 2011,20:54)Quote (Lightenup @ April 14 2011,09:28)Quote (Lightenup @ April 13 2011,22:28)Mike,If He said that He and His Son created the world, they would have gone “what Son?”  It wasn't time for the revealing of the Son, the Son was still a mystery.  God was in unity with the Son and presented them as one to the I…[Read more]

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Thanks Irene,This battle is the Lord's and we fight for our brothers and sisters who are captives.Love,Kathi

Hi betweenchristendomandjws,That is good for you to admit this, I hope it will help you. You mentioned that you have trouble going to sleep. I used to lay in bed and think about a bunch of things that I didn't get done or would like to do or some frustration, then I started listening to my iPod and podcasts of favorite Christian speakers and it…[Read more]

Hi Irene,The scientist would have told Eve that she was older than 1 day when she only existed for 1 day so I choose to think that God can make an earth that is far younger but seem far older too. I think the earth is less than 10,000 years old. Death came from the sin in the garden…fossils of animals can't come unless there is death, so I…[Read more]

Tim,If you spent time on the xxxchurch.com site, you would realize that they do not turn the beauty of sexuality into something perverse.  They claim that satan has done that.  Also, my sons don't feel 'controlled' by me, they feel free in their spirit to not treat their girlfriends in a manner leading them away from holiness and I am extremely p…[Read more]

Quote (Baker @ April 14 2011,10:21)Hi Kathi1 I always quote Hebrew 1:8, its funny I never went past that verse 8, even though I have read it before.  Another Scripture to prove Jesus preexisted.  Also that by His hands all was created, but I still believe by the power of Almighty God…..Peace and Love IreneHi Irene,I agree. I do believe that t…[Read more]

Apparently if we knew the nuances of Hebrew, the Gap theory does not 'hold water.' I found this on the web and without knowing anything about Hebrew myself, I can only consider that there may be something to what this guy wrote:“1. Hebrew grammar does not allow for a gap. it has to do with the nuances of the Vav-explicitavum, which is a…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ April 13 2011,22:28)Mike,If He said that He and His Son created the world, they would have gone “what Son?”  It wasn't time for the revealing of the Son, the Son was still a mystery.  God was in unity with the Son and presented them as one to the Israelites.  When God revealed the Son, He also revealed His part in creation so th…[Read more]

Mike,Ok, but do you agree that He didn't empty Himself of divine nature to become flesh?

Mike,Ok, but do you agree that He didn't empty Himself of divine nature to become flesh?

Mike,It CLEARLY says that through Him all things were created…now back to the example I gave you regarding Rachel and Jacob and the maid. Rachel had a son THROUGH the maid. The maid did nearly the whole work, not Rachel who just gave the command.Do you see how the Son could have done nearly ALL the work and still the word 'through' could be…[Read more]

Mike,Surely you can see that the early church fathers understand the Son as taking part in creation. The NT wasn't written at the time that Acts was happening. The early church was still learning from the Spirit. They did not have the benefit of studying the NT and having several NT's in every home like us. Kathi