Mike,Quote Well, the Father wasn't a Father until He begot His Son. And before the Son, who was there in existence to “radiate His glory” to?Where is your scripture that says the Father was not a Father until He begat His Son? You were a father, a biological father before you begat/brought forth your son…for about nine months.Where in…[Read more]

Mike,1 Cor 8:6yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom are all things and we exist for Him; and one Lord, Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we exist through Him.For one thing, the 'all things' does not include the one Lord, Jesus Christ otherwise He exists through Himself. Also, there is no mention of all things coming from…[Read more]

Mike,Thanks for bumping those points for me…much appreciated!Quote 1. So which of my statements do you claim to be untrue then?A. My son is a creation.B. My son was begotten.A. Yes, your son is a creation in the sense that your son is a creation of God as a part of creation. B. Yes, your son was begotten/born, i.e. your son was begotten as…[Read more]

Mike,you said:Quote The substance of Jesus came from within God originally, right?The substance of granite also came from within God originally, right?The substance of lint also came from within God originally, right?1. The substance of Jesus came from within God originally, right? Can you show me a verse that says that?2.The substance of granite…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 27 2011,22:01)Quote (Lightenup @ April 26 2011,20:17)'from ancient times' can mean 'from eternity'.Hi Kathi,There has been some discussion about this.  The fact that Jesus says he will be with us until the END of “aion” makes it hard to believe the word means “eternity” – because “eternity” has no END. (Matt 28:20)And…[Read more]

Hi Irene,Thank you! Keith opened up this topic with questions to me and I can see that we can't have a meaningful conversation with the mixture of those who do not believe in the deity of Christ also. Kathi

Quote (Baker @ April 27 2011,16:39)Kathy!   Rev 3:14 ¶ And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God;  Jesus is the beginning of Gods creation.Peace IreneHere Irene,Read this for understanding on that verse:The beginning of the creation of…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 27 2011,12:50)Quote (Lightenup @ April 27 2011,08:03)Kerwin,I think you mean 'deity.'  Deity, true deity,  all who have divine nature and are represented collectively as one deity and/or independently as individuals depending on the context, i.e. the Father and the Son collectively represent one deity and they e…[Read more]

If any one still has a question for me that I didn't answer, please give me one at a time, thanks!Kathi

Mike,You ask:Quote Since we know that Michael and Gabriel were brought forth at some time, we know that there was also a time when they didn't exist, right? What SCRIPTURE tells you that it was different with Jesus?Mike, for all creation, there was a time when those created out of new substance did not exist. Psalm 33:6By the word of the LORD…[Read more]

Thanks again for praying for the situation in the south. Our electricity is back up after 72 hours. I was talking with someone today that home and six horses and family were all fine but probably more than 100 of their trees felled and their neighbors on either side of them completely lost their home and there were a few deaths on their street.…[Read more]

Keith,I'm back…my electricity is now working again after 72 hours. I read through this thread and I think a one on one 'discussion' would be more effective, don't you? It gets very distracting with all those who deny the deity of Christ posting as well. I really don't want to debate, just discuss respectfully, one question at a time. That is…[Read more]

Hi Guys,Thanks for your prayers. We are now over 48 hours without electricity so here I am at the library again but don't have much time. I'm charging my phones and such Interesting time! Keep praying for those who lost everything.

Hi all,I have little time to respond on HN. I have no electricity at home and may not for a few more days, so I might stop in the library or somewhere but that is why I am not posting a response now. Sorry

Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 27 2011,18:47)Hi All,This is my post from page nine – my first post on this thread:Quote There has never been a known occasion in the history of the world where someone who was brought forth into existence wasn't also subject to a time when he DIDN'T exist.  I exist now because I was brought forth.  But because I was b…[Read more]

Kerwin,I think you mean 'deity.' Deity, true deity, all who have divine nature and are represented collectively as one deity and/or independently as individuals depending on the context, i.e. the Father and the Son collectively represent one deity and they each are deity in their person although they are not ever independent of each other. In…[Read more]

Irene,Jesus's death and man's death is in regards to the body and not the soul, you have agreed to that already. Man can only kill the body of flesh, not the soul. Jesus's flesh body died but not the spiritual part of Jesus and the spiritual part of man does not die with the body either. Jesus's flesh body was not part of who He was while He…[Read more]

Quote (betweenchristendomandjws @ April 26 2011,22:00)Quote (Lightenup @ April 27 2011,12:46)BC&JW,The created angels shine because of being in the presence of the glory of the Lord.  Moses face also shone from being in the presence of the Lord.29 Now it came about when Moses came down from Mount Si′nai that the two tablets of the Testimony were i…[Read more]

Quote (karmarie @ April 26 2011,19:15)Quote (Lightenup @ April 27 2011,13:38)Karmarie,That doesn't answer the question.  Is one true and one not true?Haha Kathi,I think this answers that…John 17:3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.And I also like this verse;John 17:21 That…[Read more]

Irene,Yes there is a point to this. The deity of Christ did not die, only the flesh of Christ died…the deity of Christ continued on.Kathi