Good grief Charlie Brown is what comes to mind right now…it is too late for anything more than that

I agree…Wispring good post

I know Mike but I'm sure t8 could use more compensation for putting up with those that love you and want to wring your neck

Mike,A passage about becoming partakers of the divine nature.2 Peter 1:11Simon Peter, a bond-servant and apostle of Jesus Christ,      To those who have received a faith of the same kind as ours, by the righteousness of our God and Savior, Jesus Christ: 2Grace and peace be multiplied to you in the knowledge of God and of Jesus our Lord; 3seeing th…[Read more]

Hi Mike,I graduated another son this weekend from high school and so I have had limited time on here.  Thanks for your patience.  I thought you didn't want long posts and then right away you write these long posts and I write long posts to respond to your long posts.  We are a lost cause you said:Quote First of all, I didn't set out to prove an…[Read more]

t8,I think that if I were you, I would increase Mike's price to a three figure amount. Think about it, it could be a real money maker for you.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 22 2011,15:00)Quote (Lightenup @ May 22 2011,13:35)Only if you don't believe that the only begotten Son WASN'T a literal Son.  I thought you said that you believe in a literal son of God, Mike.Kathi, I am a literal son of my father.  My human nature began when I was brought forth as a human being – AND NOT BEFORE THAT.  …[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 22 2011,14:54)Quote (Lightenup @ May 22 2011,13:00)Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 22 2011,13:38)Quote (Is 1:18 @ May 21 2011,22:43)Excellent post Kathi. T8 holds the Morman belief that believers become divine in the next life. I've already explained to him that you do not become that which you partake in. I.e. if you partake in a…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ May 22 2011,13:51)Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 22 2011,10:36)Quote (Lightenup @ May 21 2011,22:15)Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 21 2011,19:58)Quote (Lightenup @ May 20 2011,23:00)And that is not proven anywhere in scripture.  The Spirit was also brought forth yet eternal.I'm sorry, when again was the Spirit begotten by God?Mike,It wasn't…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 22 2011,10:41)Quote (Lightenup @ May 21 2011,22:02)Mike,If our human nature began to exist when Adam was created, the Son's divine nature began to exist when His Father's nature began to exist…No.  If our human nature began to exist when Adam was brought forth by the One who brought him forth, then it stands to reason…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 22 2011,13:38)Quote (Is 1:18 @ May 21 2011,22:43)Excellent post Kathi. T8 holds the Morman belief that believers become divine in the next life. I've already explained to him that you do not become that which you partake in. I.e. if you partake in a meal, that does not make you one!Hebrews 2:14 speaks of Jesus “partaking…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 22 2011,10:36)Quote (Lightenup @ May 21 2011,22:15)Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 21 2011,19:58)Quote (Lightenup @ May 20 2011,23:00)And that is not proven anywhere in scripture.  The Spirit was also brought forth yet eternal.I'm sorry, when again was the Spirit begotten by God?Mike,It wasn't 'begotten' but it was brought forth…[Read more]

Ireen No problem, you are not the only one that misspells my name but I can assure you that I haven't been spelling my name wrong.  You probably got the wrong spelling from Pierre and Kerwin who misspell it sometimes also.  Most of my posts this year have my name at the end Blessings,Kathi

Quote (Is 1:18 @ May 21 2011,23:43)Quote (Lightenup @ May 22 2011,14:57)I believe that when one has as a divine nature as their original and essential nature, their nature always existed.  Christians will only partake of divine nature, they will only have the fruits of that nature, not the incommunicable traits like the ability to be everywhere…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 21 2011,19:58)Quote (Lightenup @ May 20 2011,23:00)And that is not proven anywhere in scripture.  The Spirit was also brought forth yet eternal.I'm sorry, when again was the Spirit begotten by God?Mike,It wasn't 'begotten' but it was brought forth and sent. Do you have trouble with that idea? You were talking about the…[Read more]

Quote (Pastry @ May 21 2011,16:27)Quote (Lightenup @ May 21 2011,23:40)Quote (Pastry @ May 21 2011,05:16)Kathy!  Don't know what your point is.  I don't know if Jesus was always  in the Father, do you???  Do you have a scripture that says so???…You say Jesus was alive before He was begotten, Yes, as a Spirit Being…. That is the way I see it.…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 21 2011,22:45)Quote (t8 @ May 21 2011,17:56)Possessing divinity is not meant to be taken that one has existed for all eternity. After all, we can partake of divine nature and even though we have eternal life, we still had a beginning and I don't see how that can ever change.I wholeheartedly agree.Mike,If our human nature…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ May 21 2011,18:56)Possessing divinity is not meant to be taken that one has existed for all eternity. After all, we can partake of divine nature and even though we have eternal life, we still had a beginning and I don't see how that can ever change.Hi t8,I believe that when one has as a divine nature as their original and essential…[Read more]

Pierre,That's right, Christ was there before the heavens were made. The Bible says there are three heavens, I wonder where the Father and Son were before the heavens were created.Kathi

Quote (Pastry @ May 21 2011,05:16)Kathy!  Don't know what your point is.  I don't know if Jesus was always  in the Father, do you???  Do you have a scripture that says so???…You say Jesus was alive before He was begotten, Yes, as a Spirit Being…. That is the way I see it.  Begotten means born, and He was born as a Human, that's my poin…[Read more]