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    Mike,There is no 'the' in 1c. and 'beget' is not there either, nor is there an 'a' btw.The God beget a God. correct, imoThe God never beget a god. also correct.The God only beget one God who is His Son. also correct.

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    MikeIt may have went something like this:Just know that whenever God says something to you or when you see God, it is His Son who you are seeing and hearing and His Son is our God and Savior, Jesus Christ, even Jehovah as the Son of the unseen Jehovah. He you can see because the Godhead is both unseen and seen, heard and not heard because there…[Read more]

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    Paul,Don't spend the time…he continually adds words and interpretations that I have never said or suggested. For one, I have never used the term 'incubation' in my understanding in fact I have told him that and you can see that he uses the term even here. I appreciate your efforts…really do!Blessings,Kathi

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 28 2011,21:48)Tempe, Az.Here is one for you to try Mike. It sounds like there are students of the word there. They believe in the inerrancy of the Bible and the Apostles' Creed. That is something you have in common with them. Service Times & DirectionsSunday Worship Services: 9:15am11:00amConnection Center Hours:…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 28 2011,21:33)Quote (Lightenup @ May 28 2011,19:39)Jesus always had His divinity nature and with the incarnation, He also took on the nature of humanity.  He although glorified, still has these two natures even now and that is one reason He calls us 'brethren.'Oh I see now.  Jesus DOES actually HAVE human nature even t…[Read more]

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    Mike,The Father always existed, you know that right? The Son was in Him. You deny that the scriptures call Him 'our great God and Savior.'Titus 2:13 looking for the blessed hope and the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior, Christ Jesus,Romans 9:5 To them belong the patriarchs, and from their race, according to the flesh, is the…[Read more]

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    This is another ancient Syriac document entitled, “The Teaching of Addaeus, the Apostle.” Addaeus followed Jesus while He was alive and died a martyr's death, Abgar was a king who had written to Jesus asking for Him to come and heal him…Jesus wrote back and said that He would send one of His followers that could help him and the one sent was…[Read more]

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    Irene,Those people died because they would not worship the government's gods but were followers of Christ. You ought to read more about the martyrs. The Jews were the first persecutors…think Paul of Tarsus. Find out why Stephen was persecuted. Learn more about this. I will be putting another historical Syriac document that was officially…[Read more]

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    Mike,Find yourself a good teaching church and get in a small group. There you can discuss and learn. Keep trying till you find one that teaches from the Bible and where the members also bring their Bibles and follow along…that is a good sign :) Check out their class for potential new members, you should be able to discuss your opinions there.…[Read more]

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    Quote What is wrong with believing that there is one God the Father as we are meant to?You miss the fullness of God and you deny the deity of Christ.  You might as well be Jewish looking for a messiah that they thought was to have earthly parents, mother and father.  They didn't accept the possibility that God could be His Father because that w…[Read more]

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    t8,Jesus is also called YHWH AND has divine nature. Having divine nature exactly like the Father does mean that one is God. Partaking of it does not. Jesus is referred to as our great God and Savior, soooo…that was written by Peter, not satan. Satan would love for you to miss that. You might be interested in reading the ancient Syriac…[Read more]

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    Well,Mike, it is clear that scripture says to baptize in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit and so therefore I assume they did that because they would have followed the Lord's command. If it is written as baptizing in the name of Jesus then it was more likely because the writer was emphasizing the name that was new to them, like…[Read more]

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    Mike,Jesus always had His divinity nature and with the incarnation, He also took on the nature of humanity. He although glorified, still has these two natures even now and that is one reason He calls us 'brethren.' According to His humanity, He is our mediator/intercessor/High Priest/Brother/the Lamb…according to His divinity He is Judge,…[Read more]

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    Mike,Read what I wrote:Quote I tend to think that they did baptize in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit. I think that Acts has it written that they baptized in Jesus' name, but I tend to think that they baptized in all three, and when Acts was written, it just emphasizes Jesus' name but doesn't mean that the other two names…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 28 2011,13:23)Quote (Lightenup @ May 28 2011,10:29)So saying the 'Godhead of Israel' is…, is proper.Good point.  Now if only the words “El” and “Elohim” meant “Godhead”, you'd have a good start on this doctrine you're creating.mikeWell, they might imply Godhead. It is a plural word used with a singular pronoun. El…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 28 2011,13:20)Quote (Lightenup @ May 27 2011,23:00)1 John 1:3what we have seen and heard we proclaim to you also, so that you too may have fellowship with us; and indeed our fellowship is with the Father, and with His Son Jesus Christ.Why does it not say that our fellowship is with the Father through His Son if we are…[Read more]

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    Hi Mike,I think the context makes it clear that the words are accurately translated in the document and shouldn't be how you suggest. I tend to think that they did baptize in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit. They simply mentioned baptizing in the name of Jesus because of emphasis. The Jews already believed in the Father…[Read more]

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    Mike,you said:Quote Kathi, do you think we need to rewrite the scriptures as I have done above? Because using a singular pronoun to refer to TWO persons does not make sense to any rational person.Mike, the word Godhead is a singular word. Many words are like that, for instance with the word 'government' which as you know is made up of many, I…[Read more]

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    Thank you Paul, Keith, and Shimmer!God bless,Kathi

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    From the ancient Syriac documents:The Teaching of Simon Cephas in the City of Rome (who we know as 'Peter' the disciple):In the third(4) year of Claudius Caesar, Simon Cephas departed from Antioch to go to Rome. And as he passed on he preached in the divers countries the word of our Lord. And, when he had nearly arrived there,(5) many had heard of…[Read more]

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