Mike,Context tells you if “God” refers to a particular person within the Godhead, whether the Father or the Son, or if it refers to the Godhead which consists of the Father with His Son and their Spirit.Kathi

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 03 2011,11:23)Quote (Lightenup @ June 03 2011,09:42)Hi Paul,I completely agree with you.  However, when we read the insults from others, we learn their character.  We know that is not Spirit led.  God doesn't inspire others to condemn.  The insults are just verification of one who condemns.  Therefore, in a way, it i…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ June 03 2011,01:42)Quote (Lightenup @ June 03 2011,06:53)Mike,Their oneness consists of more than one person.Also, if God was always Almighty, then He was never without His Son and their Spirit.  Which way is God more mighty…with the Son or without the Son?  With the Son, right?  A no brainer.  So, if God was always ALM…[Read more]

This next ancient historical Syriac document is about a man named Sharbil.  He had been a priest to idols until his conversion to Christianity.  This is very interesting!  It shows the power that the emperors had to torture anyone who did not sacrifice to their gods made out of stone.  Notice how this document confesses that Christ was to be wor…[Read more]

Quote (Istari @ June 03 2011,03:03)Also, Kathi, what kind of nonsense are you writing by saying God could not be God without the Son?The Father could not be the father without the Son.It is evident in itself that there is no father without the Son!Not one single person argues against that – your point is twisted to create your own delusion.Before…[Read more]

Hi Paul,I completely agree with you. However, when we read the insults from others, we learn their character. We know that is not Spirit led. God doesn't inspire others to condemn. The insults are just verification of one who condemns. Therefore, in a way, it is encouraging me to continue in my understanding since it is satan who condemns and…[Read more]

Hi Ted,As with everything, it needs to be tested. Believers have the Spirit within them to guide them. Good thing As far as what these documents are saying, I find they line up to the beliefs of the majority of early church fathers. I did not get the same understanding about Mr. Pratten. I think the author of the introduction was just stating…[Read more]

Mikeyou said:Quote You act as if “Spirit Jesus” existed in heaven as an “out of body” entity watching down on “Flesh Jesus” during his ministry………and that only “Flesh Jesus” died while “Spirit Jesus” lived on.Of course you know I have never said that, right. The pre-existent Son took on flesh, He didn't look down on His flesh.Quote Jesus…[Read more]

Mikeyou said:Quote You act as if “Spirit Jesus” existed in heaven as an “out of body” entity watching down on “Flesh Jesus” during his ministry………and that only “Flesh Jesus” died while “Spirit Jesus” lived on.Of course you know I have never said that, right. The pre-existent Son took on flesh, He didn't look down on His flesh.Quote Jesus…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 02 2011,21:52)Quote (Lightenup @ June 02 2011,20:34)Mike,Quote K and K, there is never any indication that Jesus died in a different way than anyone else ever died.  Anything you want to add to those facts is merely opinion and wishful thinking on your parts.There is every indication that Jesus had more to Him, since He…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 02 2011,21:52)Quote (Lightenup @ June 02 2011,20:34)Mike,Quote K and K, there is never any indication that Jesus died in a different way than anyone else ever died.  Anything you want to add to those facts is merely opinion and wishful thinking on your parts.There is every indication that Jesus had more to Him, since He…[Read more]

Mike,you said:Quote God would be equally Almighty whether or not He ever beget a Son. How is it that you've come to the conclusion that God in any way NEEDS Jesus?God is self-sufficient and NEEDS no one. How does God GIVING all power and authority to His Son somehow make Him more mighty? Could God be a Father of a proper offspring without…[Read more]

Mike,How about 'Almighty God,' El Shaddai likely meaning Godhead. Take away one member who is 'of' the Father and you have a less mighty God.It isn't hard.Kathi

Mike,How about 'Almighty God,' El Shaddai likely meaning Godhead. Take away one member who is 'of' the Father and you have a less mighty God.It isn't hard.Kathi

Mike,Quote K and K, there is never any indication that Jesus died in a different way than anyone else ever died. Anything you want to add to those facts is merely opinion and wishful thinking on your parts.There is every indication that Jesus had more to Him, since He existed as a being before He became man…true? This is not the case with any…[Read more]

Mike,Quote K and K, there is never any indication that Jesus died in a different way than anyone else ever died. Anything you want to add to those facts is merely opinion and wishful thinking on your parts.There is every indication that Jesus had more to Him, since He existed as a being before He became man…true? This is not the case with any…[Read more]

Mike,Godhead is a singular noun, remember? The government is weak, not the government are weak.

Mike,Godhead is a singular noun, remember? The government is weak, not the government are weak.

Mike,Their oneness consists of more than one person.Also, if God was always Almighty, then He was never without His Son and their Spirit. Which way is God more mighty…with the Son or without the Son? With the Son, right? A no brainer. So, if God was always ALMIGHTY, then He always had the Son. He didn't go from 'mighty' to 'almighty' as…[Read more]

Istari,How do you know that the Son wasn't always IN the Father before He came out of the Father? I have proven that when the offspring is alive within the parent…the parent is the parent just as much then as after the birth. If someone sees a pregnant woman and asks her who the father is, there is a sure answer that someone is the father at…[Read more]