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Lightenup replied to the topic Ancient Syriac Documents in the forum Exta-biblical Writings 14 years, 11 months ago
This is the historical ancient Syriac account of Habib who would go from house to house encouraging the early Christians and instruct them in the ways of the Lord and to stand firm in their confession of Christ. Habib was martyred and this is the account of that:Page 1:In the month Ab,(2) of the year six hundred and twenty of the kingdom of…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Ancient Syriac Documents in the forum Exta-biblical Writings 14 years, 11 months ago
Hey Everybody,I have been and still am on a vacation so I have less time to post. If you have questions for me that aren't answered, please put them on the appropriate topic and PM me to bring them to my attention or bump them here if they have to do with the Syriac documents. Thanks guys!Kathi
Lightenup replied to the topic Monotheism = Belief in Only One God in the forum View Points 14 years, 11 months ago
Quote (terraricca @ June 15 2011,01:33)Quote (Lightenup @ June 15 2011,23:40)Pierre,you said:Quote SO ONE GOD ,ONE PERSON,CHRIST THE SON ONE PERSON SEPARATE AND CREATED WAY AFTER ??TIME??BUT IS HIS FIRST CREATION.We disagree here and so we come to different conclusions. I think that the Son always existed, first within the Father and then…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Monotheism = Belief in Only One God in the forum View Points 14 years, 11 months ago
Quote (theodorej @ June 15 2011,13:38)Quote (Lightenup @ June 14 2011,07:58)Can anyone show me scripture that the Father could eternally save us apart from the Son? If He can save us only because of the Son, then the Father is mightier and more capable BECAUSE of His connection with the Son then apart from the Son.Can the Father dwell within…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Monotheism = Belief in Only One God in the forum View Points 14 years, 11 months ago
Mike,I could say many things to you right now, but I am tired and I have to get up in a few hours and start a road trip. Just one thing for now…you said:Quote You WANT God to be dependent on one of His creations, so you just up and claim that as a fact also.I don't believe that the Son is a creation so that statement alone shows that you will…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Ancient Syriac Documents in the forum Exta-biblical Writings 14 years, 11 months ago
Pierre,I can understand that you would not get it, there is a reason for that. You believe that Jesus is as much deity as Moses was. Enough said. That is all I am going to discuss with you off topic. I want to get back to the topic. If you want to discuss in the appropriate topic then I may address your confusion. I will be out of town and I…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Ancient Syriac Documents in the forum Exta-biblical Writings 14 years, 11 months ago
t8-One question for you…where have I said that Jesus was the Almighty God? You simply do not read my posts with understanding for you to say that I say Jesus is the Almighty God. The Almighty God is the Father with His Son-the Mighty God and their Spirit.Take one person away, the Father or the Son and you do not have an almighty God but just a…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Ancient Syriac Documents in the forum Exta-biblical Writings 14 years, 11 months ago
Pierre,Here are my scriptural quotes:Pr 8:22 Jehovah possessed me in the beginning of his way, Before his works of old. Within Jehovah the Father was the Son who had the wisdom of God in Himself (Son). The Son was a possession of the Father, not as an object but as an offspring…before His works of old Jehovah had an offspring within Him.Pr…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Ancient Syriac Documents in the forum Exta-biblical Writings 14 years, 11 months ago
Ah Pierre,You are but a man, no? And it is your view that I am wrong. And it is my view that you are wrong.Btw, I never implied that the Son was the Father's God, but instead the Son is God with the Father.God will show us His truth in time.Kathi
Lightenup replied to the topic Ancient Syriac Documents in the forum Exta-biblical Writings 14 years, 11 months ago
Pierre,As far as man goes, man cannot give any material things to God that God doesn't already own. But man can give his allegiance to God…man does have a choice in that. So, God is dependent on man only in the man's choice to choose God to be his God. God has a righteous jealousy towards us. He wants the best for us and wants to protect and…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Monotheism = Belief in Only One God in the forum View Points 14 years, 11 months ago
Pierre,That verse does not say that He is the first-created over all creation.This is my understanding of it…He is the firstborn of God and is over all creation, thus, the 'firstborn over all creation.'See the difference?Good night Pierre!Kathi
Lightenup replied to the topic Ancient Syriac Documents in the forum Exta-biblical Writings 14 years, 11 months ago
Pierre,This part of your comment was what I thought was incorrect: “God is a giver not a taker,…”Now you seem to retract that idea knowing that we can give God our love and that gives God glory. Therefore He receives, or takes that love from us that we want to give Him.As you know, I do not agree that the Son was created. The Son was the…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Ancient Syriac Documents in the forum Exta-biblical Writings 14 years, 11 months ago
Pierre,Then according to you, God does not receive love from us because He is not a 'taker' as you say.
Lightenup replied to the topic Prayer for Others in the forum Prayer & Advice 14 years, 11 months ago
It is my pleasure, Irene.
I hope you can get some sleep and have a sweet dream.Love, KathiLightenup replied to the topic Monotheism = Belief in Only One God in the forum View Points 14 years, 11 months ago
Mike,So many questions…
you said:Quote Mark 10:27Jesus looked at them and said, “With man this is impossible, but not with God; all things are possible with God.”Who do you think Jesus was referring to as “God” in this scripture, Kathi?God would be the Father who was inseparable from His Son and their Spirit. Quote Why would the vessel God cho…[Read more]Lightenup replied to the topic Monotheism = Belief in Only One God in the forum View Points 14 years, 11 months ago
Pierre,you said:Quote SO ONE GOD ,ONE PERSON,CHRIST THE SON ONE PERSON SEPARATE AND CREATED WAY AFTER ??TIME??BUT IS HIS FIRST CREATION.We disagree here and so we come to different conclusions. I think that the Son always existed, first within the Father and then begotten from within before creation.
Lightenup replied to the topic Prayer for Others in the forum Prayer & Advice 14 years, 11 months ago
So sorry Irene to hear of how miserable you are feeling. I hate that you have to go through this. I will pray for a quick turn-a-round. Maybe your medicine is causing the nausea. Sometimes that is a side effect. Read through the side effects.Dear Father God please bless Irene with your grace and comfort. Wrap your loving arms around her and…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Ancient Syriac Documents in the forum Exta-biblical Writings 14 years, 11 months ago
Quote (Pastry @ June 14 2011,17:30)Quote (Lightenup @ June 15 2011,01:00)Irene,Where in these articles does it use the words that says Christ is equal to Almighty God?KathiKATHI! I did not read those articles, only what you are saying. And what you are saying is not according to Scriptures. Did I say I don't believe what the Apostles are sa…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Ancient Syriac Documents in the forum Exta-biblical Writings 14 years, 11 months ago
Hi t8,you said:Quote Once you understand this, then you can read those 3 pages and understand that God from God is a being of divine nature from the Divine himself. It is not meant to be taken that they are the same God being, just as Eve is not the same being as Adam, but is in like adam/mankind, i.e., having the same nature.I have understood…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Ancient Syriac Documents in the forum Exta-biblical Writings 14 years, 11 months ago
Irene,Where in these articles does it use the words that says Christ is equal to Almighty God?Kathi
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