Pierre,Actually it seems that Jesus was the King even when He was just born.Matt 2:2″Where is He who has been born King of the Jews ? For we saw His star in the east and have come to worship Him.Psalm 145:13Your kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, And Your dominion endures throughout all generations.

Thanks Keith,Here is another:Hebrews 1:8But of the Son He says, “YOUR THRONE, O GOD, IS FOREVER AND EVER, AND THE RIGHTEOUS SCEPTER IS THE SCEPTER OF HIS KINGDOM.

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 01 2011,12:00)Hi AllWhen a true believer refers to “God” as his “Savior” that includes “The Father, Son and the Holy Spirit” for the three are “One” and you can't have one without the other!Pure and simple. “One God” and “One Savior” and that is Biblical!WJThat's right Keith!Kathi

Quote (terraricca @ July 01 2011,08:47)KathiQuote Pierre,As the offspring of David, He received His kingdom when He was resurrected.  As the root of David He was always in His kingdom with His Father.Kathi Quote As the offspring of David, He received His kingdom when He was resurrectedwhere does it say that in scriptures?to my understanding it…[Read more]

t8,You already have a place for private discussions by invitation only in the 'Group Discussions and Debates' thread.  If you want to discuss with only certain people then start a discussion and invite who you want to invite.However, it might be a good idea to have a section for those who believe in the deity of Christ and another section for…[Read more]

There are two persons that took part in our eternal salvation. They form a unity and that unity is called the LORD (Jehovah) our God.So in a sense there are two Saviors and in another sense there is one Savior. It depends on the perspective or emphasis of the situation.Deut 10:17 For the LORD your God is God of gods, and Lord of lordsThe LORD…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ June 29 2011,20:11)t8,Quote Family is a unit/organisation made up of persons.A family is not a HIM, but THEY.But that has nothing to do with my example.  My example wasn't defining a family but a 'family man' who is a 'him' and not a they.  t8, I have noticed time and time again how you are misreading nearly every post I w…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ June 27 2011,00:59)Quote (Lightenup @ June 27 2011,09:21)t8,Quote Even Jesus is a son of the Most High except that he is the only begotten and firstborn. A big exception there t8.  A difference between deity and non deity.God is a 'Him' on one side of the equation but on the other side of the equation, the Father is a mighty God, the…[Read more]

t8.Are you the one pretending that you don't understand pronouns and antecedents? http://englishplus.com/grammar/00000030.htmthese are your words t8:Quote It amazes me how some people really try hard to change truth into their own understanding.Whatever happened to just reading scripture and believing it.Having to apply a doctrine to all…[Read more]

Pierre,As the offspring of David, He received His kingdom when He was resurrected. As the root of David He was always in His kingdom with His Father.Kathi

Quote (Rena @ July 01 2011,00:11)Kathi, how come Jesus said – “Why do you call me good? No one is good except one–God.”I don't understand the Trinity, and I dont know anything about the earlier Trinity that you speak of. But I'm curious about this one verse and others.Rena,I think that Jesus was looking for faith and to see if His Father had…[Read more]

Ok Mike…rejoice…it lives again

Roo,Thanks…welcome back, I hope all is well.Kathi

Dear Hopeless you said:Quote It doesn't really matter though, does it?  If the Father is greater than Jesus in ANY RESPECT AT ALL, then you no longer have two EQUAL mighty gods who form one Almighty God.  Do you not know what the word “EQUAL” means, Kathi?Which one was the greater Son Mike, or the greater servant, or the greater mediator, or the g…[Read more]

Hello and welcome tt33,God does want you to stop smoking and it sounds like that will help some of your other problems. Take courage!Blessings,Kathi

Let's see Mike,You say I have no scriptural support for my equation that says that Jesus and the Father are two mighty Gods…hmmmm.  What do you call this:Isaiah 9:6 NASFor a child will be born to us, a son will be given to us; And the government will rest on His shoulders ; And His name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal…[Read more]

Thank you Keith!I think the bulk of the problem on here is the inability of seeing the Almighty God as the Father who is with His Son and their Spirit. They think the Almighty God is the Father apart from His Son.The equation that I have been using to write this is:Almighty God our Father = The Father who is a mighty God + the Son who is a mighty…[Read more]

Mike,It is absolutely significant what greater and lessor means. I think they merely mean one is greater in His position in the relationship as Father, not greater in regards to nature. Therefore both are equally mighty God in nature. The Son is not equally the begetter, nor is He equally the Father and the Father is not equally the begotten…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ June 28 2011,23:19)Mike,I don't say that the Father and Son are the same mighty God but together with their Spirit they do make the Father the Almighty God.  Remember, my equation:The Almighty God, our Father = the Father who is a mighty God + the Son who is a mighty God + their SpiritThe Father and the Son are both equally a…[Read more]

1 Cor 7:22 For he who was called in the Lord while a slave, is the Lord's freedman ; likewise he who was called while free, is Christ's slave. 23 You were bought with a price ; do not become slaves of men.Colossians 4:12 NASEpaphras, who is one of your number, a bondslave of Jesus Christ, sends you his greetings, always laboring earnestly for you…[Read more]