Mike,Quote So not only do we have TWO Gods when scripture is very clear we only have ONE, but one of these two EQUAL mighty Gods SERVES the other one? Does that really sound like “equality” to you? When other nations served the Israelites, were those nations EQUAL to Israel? Kathi, just a rule of thumb for you: If one is the SERVANT of the…[Read more]

Pierre,No I am not saying that Kathi alone sees it that way. Many do…go check out the Firstborn thread, like I have told you before.Stop being an antagonist!

Mike,Quote So one of our “mighty Gods” is an errand boy for the other “mighty God”?One of the mighty Gods is the wise a powerful Son who serves His Father faithfully and the creation which they brought forth from nothing.Quote So one of our “mighty Gods” is an errand boy for the other “mighty God”?The Son who is the mighty God from eternity, also…[Read more]

Pierre,It all fits together if you understand. If you don't understand, then you will say what you said.

Hi Happyman,You are very welcome. You are right…a time and a place for everything I'm glad that this thread has helped you.Love to you,Kathi

Jesus Walks on Water – Story Summary:After feeding the 5000, Jesus sends his disciples ahead of him in a boat to cross the Sea of Galilee. Several hours later in the night, the disciples encounter a storm. Jesus comes to them, walking on the water. This terrifies the disciples and they think they are seeing a ghost. Jesus tells them in verse 27,…[Read more]

Thanks Ted, all is well and I did enjoy my vacation very much. What I am gleaning from these Syriac historical documents are many things. I find the boldness and confidence in the early Christians very impressive and can imagine what an exciting time in our Christian history that must have been. Also, I have thought about how much the apostles…[Read more]

tt33,Please get yourself some help from a pastor near you. Ask someone you trust for a name of a pastor that they love. Do not take your life, that is for God to do in His time. You need someone to personally talk to you that can answer your questions. You are focusing on the problem and that is filling you with fear…like Peter who tried to…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 02 2011,21:15)Quote (Lightenup @ July 02 2011,13:28)Mike,Yes it is a Messianic prophecy.  According to His humanity He became king after His resurrection, as I understand it.  According to His divinity He was always in authority with His Father in the kingdom of God, as the Son, from the beginning of creation.Rev 3 14″To t…[Read more]

Quote (shimmer @ July 02 2011,17:51)Kathi,Do you believe that you can now, through Jesus, go directly to the Father?Do you believe that what Christ did, was tear down the dividing wall?Do you believe that when you go to the Father in prayer, and address the Father as the Father, that Jesus is in you? Or is Jesus not?Is Jesus out there – someone…[Read more]

Pierre,Do you think that God the Father was always the authority over all things? Do you think that the creator would have a king over Him, ever? Do you think that the kingdom of God did not exist till after Jesus was born of Mary?Thanks in advance for answering,Kathi

Mike,Yes it is a Messianic prophecy. According to His humanity He became king after His resurrection, as I understand it. According to His divinity He was always in authority with His Father in the kingdom of God, as the Son, from the beginning of creation.Rev 3 14″To the angel of the church in Laodicea write: These are the words of the Amen,…[Read more]

Pierre,Look at the scriptures that I have given you and you can read truth.

Pierre,The 'if' was to help you reason it out, not because I doubt that He always was a king.

Pierre,If He has always been a king, then He would already be a king when He became flesh and was born. As the offspring of David, I still believe that He received the kingdom promised to David after His resurrection.So my view remains.Kathi

Pierre,Actually it seems that Jesus was the King even when He was just born.Matt 2:2″Where is He who has been born King of the Jews ? For we saw His star in the east and have come to worship Him.Psalm 145:13Your kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, And Your dominion endures throughout all generations.

Thanks Keith,Here is another:Hebrews 1:8But of the Son He says, “YOUR THRONE, O GOD, IS FOREVER AND EVER, AND THE RIGHTEOUS SCEPTER IS THE SCEPTER OF HIS KINGDOM.

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 01 2011,12:00)Hi AllWhen a true believer refers to “God” as his “Savior” that includes “The Father, Son and the Holy Spirit” for the three are “One” and you can't have one without the other!Pure and simple. “One God” and “One Savior” and that is Biblical!WJThat's right Keith!Kathi

Quote (terraricca @ July 01 2011,08:47)KathiQuote Pierre,As the offspring of David, He received His kingdom when He was resurrected.  As the root of David He was always in His kingdom with His Father.Kathi Quote As the offspring of David, He received His kingdom when He was resurrectedwhere does it say that in scriptures?to my understanding it…[Read more]

t8,You already have a place for private discussions by invitation only in the 'Group Discussions and Debates' thread.  If you want to discuss with only certain people then start a discussion and invite who you want to invite.However, it might be a good idea to have a section for those who believe in the deity of Christ and another section for…[Read more]