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Lightenup replied to the topic Kathy What Do You Mean By Preexisting Sonship? in the forum The Hot Seat 15 years, 1 month ago
Pierre,Can you narrow your question? I don't know what you are getting at.Kathi
Lightenup replied to the topic Worship God the Father only? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 15 years, 1 month ago
Irene,See the date on which I showed you the Deuteronomy 10:17 verse in the quote in the above post? July 18th was just 3 days ago and until Pierre showed you the Deuteronomy 10:17 verse, you showed that you didn't have a clue about it. I'm sure that is frustrating for you and realize that your lack of memory is something that we all have to…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Worship God the Father only? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 15 years, 1 month ago
Quote (Lightenup @ July 18 2011,17:28)Irene,you asked:Quote Where is it in Scripture that makes them both Jehovah God?Irene, read this post through carefully…Deut 10:17“For the LORD your God is the God of gods AND the Lord of lords, the great, the mighty, and the awesome God who does not show partiality nor take a bribe.Now read this:Rev 7:14…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Ancient Syriac Documents in the forum Exta-biblical Writings 15 years, 1 month ago
Pierre,I don't know what Paul would say, but I know that you don't want to believe what I say so you need to find some things out for yourself. You are a fisherman, right? When someone wants a fish from you, over and over, do you just hand them a fish or teach them to fish for themselves?Try fishing with a word search…bait your hook and throw…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Worship God the Father only? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 15 years, 1 month ago
Pierre,you said:Quote Christ is never called the God of gods is he ?I haven't exhausted the study of that, but as far as I can tell, the Son is not referred to as the God of gods.Quote but God is called LORD OF LORDSJehovah our God is called Lord of lords but I don't believe the Father alone is. Quote AND SO IS CHRISTYes, the only begotten Son,…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Ancient Syriac Documents in the forum Exta-biblical Writings 15 years, 1 month ago
Pierre,Do a Bible word search for 'image' and 'nature' and see if you can further your Biblical understanding on this matter.Kathi
Lightenup replied to the topic Worship God the Father only? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 15 years, 1 month ago
Pierre,What are you doing? What is that supposed to tell me?
Lightenup replied to the topic Ancient Syriac Documents in the forum Exta-biblical Writings 15 years, 1 month ago
t8Quote It's the same argument as “Is Adam and Eve equal as adam.We know that both are fully adam.So if Jesus is theos in nature and we can partake in divine nature and will have a body like his, then yes we are the same.But in name, position, and authority, he is greater just as Adam was greater in position as the first born son. Adam and…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Ancient Syriac Documents in the forum Exta-biblical Writings 15 years, 1 month ago
The presence or existence of the Son is why God is Almighty AND Father. The Son has always existed. The Father has always been Almighty.Without the Son, God would not be Almighty or Father, imo. The Father is Almighty only when the Son is with Him. The Son is always with Him, the Son is eternal too. Thus, the Father is always Almighty.
Lightenup replied to the topic Worship God the Father only? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 15 years, 1 month ago
Pierre,you said:Quote ll are submit to God JehovahWho is Jehovah our God, Pierre. First you need to know who this is in order to build your foundation on a rock so that the storms can't blow it over.Here is your answer:”For Jehovah your God is the God of gods and the Lord of lords, the great, the mighty, and the awesome God who does not show…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Worship God the Father only? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 15 years, 1 month ago
MIke,The Church is a compound unity literally, male or female, it doesn't matter.Jehovah our God is a compound unity literally, male or female it doesn't matter.Kathi
Lightenup replied to the topic Worship God the Father only? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 15 years, 1 month ago
Mike,I am not playing your game where you keep changing the question. The question of yours that I quoted was sufficient to ask for me to prove what was necessary for Jehovah our God to be a compound unity and yet to be referred to with a singular personal pronoun.I proved that and I am done proving that. It is an established fact that the church…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Worship God the Father only? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 15 years, 1 month ago
Mike,This should help you know that we are to worship Jehovah, our God:Deut 6:13 “You shall fear only Jehovah your God ; and you shall worship Him and swear by His name.Deut 26:10 'Now behold, I have brought the first of the produce of the ground which You, O Jehovah have given me.' And you shall set it down before Jehovah your God, and worship…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Worship God the Father only? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 15 years, 1 month ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 20 2011,21:30)Quote (Lightenup @ July 20 2011,16:57)PS…we made it to page 200!! I don't know if that is good or bad. Seems like this should be settled long ago and really not been an issue with such a wonderful Jesus that we have.Nobody is doubting how wonderful Jesus is, Kathi. But you are right, this really should ha…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Worship God the Father only? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 15 years, 1 month ago
Mike,you said this:Quote Now if we factor in the FACT that two or more persons are NEVER referred to with a SINGULAR, PERSONAL PRONOUN, then MY understanding must be the correct one.from here, second post from the bottom:https://www.heavennet.net/cgi-bin….st=1960This is another statement that I have proven wrong with the passage in my last…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Worship God the Father only? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 15 years, 1 month ago
Mike,You said this:Quote And I'm telling you that a unity of PERSONS is never identified by a SINGULAR PERSONAL pronoun.from here, sixth post down: https://www.heavennet.net/cgi-bin….st=1930Can you admit that I proved you wrong with the following passage according to your statement which I quoted? Yes or no?23 For the husband is the head of the…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Ancient Syriac Documents in the forum Exta-biblical Writings 15 years, 1 month ago
Pierre, Did you not say that we are all gods?Is Jesus and you equal as god?Kathi
Lightenup replied to the topic Ancient Syriac Documents in the forum Exta-biblical Writings 15 years, 1 month ago
Mike,you said:Quote So, where is YOUR evidence that CLEARLY shows each of us from the words of the scriptures themselves that the Son of God was an exception to the rules of begetting?The Son has the exact representation of the Father's nature and the Father is eternal. Human understanding does not offer a default model for one with the nature of…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Ancient Syriac Documents in the forum Exta-biblical Writings 15 years, 1 month ago
Mike I wrote that to Pierre because he didn't attempt to change the verse…comma or word order like you have in mind doing.Kathi
Lightenup replied to the topic Worship God the Father only? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 15 years, 1 month ago
Mike,Here is another example of a compound unity being referred to with a singular personal pronoun as a 'she and a 'her.'Isaiah 40:2″Speak kindly to Jerusalem; And call out to her, that her warfare has ended, That her iniquity has been removed, That she has received of the LORD'S hand Double for all her sins.”Jerusalem here is the gospel church…[Read more]
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