Pierre,John 17:21…that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in usJesus wants us to be a unity in them not as them.  When we are in Christ, we are not also Christ.  When we are in them, we are not also them.  We are not just “in” the Father but “in” THEM.We, the church can be one AS they are on…[Read more]

Irene,I am not debating that there is only ONE JEHOVAH GOD, I agree.  But, instead of that name representing one being, I believe that name represents the unity of two beings…one that is the God of gods and one that is the Lord of lords.  When Deut 10:17 says “Lord of lords' that is the translation of  Strong's number 136…Adonay which is Lo…[Read more]

Quote (princess @ July 25 2011,10:07)Clouds and wind, and rain there is none, Is one boasting in a false gift.If you want to quote me, Princess, all you have to do is push the little 'quote' button at the top of the post. I just did that to your post here as an example and it works quite nicely

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 24 2011,21:23)Revelation 1:5 NASB © and from Jesus Christ, the faithful witness, the firstborn of the dead, and the ruler of the kings of the earth. To Him who loves us and released us from our sins by His blood—NRSV © and from Jesus Christ, the faithful witness, the firstborn of the dead, and the ruler of the kings of the…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ July 25 2011,03:57)Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 25 2011,13:23)Revelation 1:5 NASB © and from Jesus Christ, the faithful witness, the firstborn of the dead, and the ruler of the kings of the earth. To Him who loves us and released us from our sins by His blood—NRSV © and from Jesus Christ, the faithful witness, the fir…[Read more]

Hi Irene,You say there is only ONE Jehovah our God.  There is also ONE body of Christ.  Both are a compound unity made up of more than one.Btw, Deut 10:17 does say Jehovah, doesn't it Also, the name 'Lord of lords' is not a substitute for the word 'Jehovah' but it is a name that Jehovah encompasses.Quote In the New Test. for Jesus it is Lord t…[Read more]

Amazing kid…http://theresurgence.com/2011….-school

Good quote William! I would totally agree that it is very wise not to carry on most arguments. Although, I have seen people come around to agreeing with another's view when the right reasoning is put in front of them. They would be the wise and understanding person and not the fool though. No use arguing with a fool.Love to you too Bro,Kathi

Quote (Lightenup @ July 23 2011,22:19)Mike,Quote Kathi, we are also said to be ONE with the Father.Where?Mike,Did you answer this and I missed it or did you not answer this yet?Kathi

Mike,you asked:Quote What scripture tells you the Son “allowed” his Father's will to be done?Do you think the Son had no choice but to do the will of the Father? Do you think that the Son was just the Father's puppet?Quote When does scripture say the Father “submitted” to his Son? “I will ask the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 24 2011,21:42)Quote (Lightenup @ July 24 2011,14:13)Both the Father and the Son are the one savior, Kathi, I don't understand your English here.  Could you try again?  Hint:  When intelligent people speak of TWO persons in English, they use a PLURAL word to describe them, such as “saviors”.  For example:  Mike and Kath…[Read more]

Hi Mike,you said:Quote You left out a word, Kathi. “That implies that ALL human beings brought forth an offspring” named Cain, not Abel. (Cain was the firstborn of ALL mankind. But that doesn't mean his father is ALL MANKIND, does it?)In the case of Cain, his father and mother were all mankind at the time.Quote Jesus calls GOD “Father”. But…[Read more]

Pierre,Obviously it hasn't happened to you yet. I didn't write my post to point fingers, just shared an observation.

Hi William,We are not to argue with someone we feel that God would call a fool, I know that for sure. In all things we are to be Spirit led, even in our discussions and we are to wait upon the Lord to bring the understanding. Sometimes that means to just agree to wait on the Lord to bring agreement and cutoff the conversation that is turning…[Read more]

Pierre,Again you bring no apologetics but instead your rude opinion. Do you think that glorifies the true God Jehovah who is God of gods and Lord of lords? Rudeness doesn't bring Him glory, Pierre.Defend your opinion with scripture and leave out the rudeness, ok? Rude posts are against HN rules and you can be reported for that.Kathi

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 24 2011,08:39)Quote (Lightenup @ July 21 2011,23:42)It seems that Jesus walks in accordance to the Father's will and asks the Father for things in accordance to His (Jesus') will.“My Father, if it is possible, may this cup be taken from me. Yet not as I will, but as you will.”This time, Jesus' will did not align with the…[Read more]

Both the Father and the Son are the one savior, salvation belongs to both of them, they are a compound unity. Salvation belongs to them as two persons in one compound unity. Creation also belongs to both of them as two persons in one compound unity. This compound unity is called 'Jehovah our God.' The name of the compound unity, 'Jehovah our…[Read more]

Mike,you said:Quote Kathi, who was the firstborn of all human beings? Would you consider it to be Adam, Eve, or Cain? No matter which one you consider to be “the firstborn of all mankind”, I'm sure you would be smart enough to know that “all mankind” refers to the GROUP that one was a MEMBER OF, and not to the “entity” that brought that one…[Read more]

Irene,Deut. 10:17 tells you who Jehovah our God is. He is both God of gods and Lord of lords. Deut 10:17 “For the LORD (Jehovah) your God is the God of gods and the Lord of lords, the great, the mighty, and the awesome God who does not show partiality nor take a bribe.1 Cor 8:6 tells us there is one God, the Father and one Lord Jesus Christ…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 23 2011,21:51)Quote (Lightenup @ July 23 2011,08:58)Try to lay down your understanding Mike, it is weakening you.Are you kidding me?  You list a bunch of scriptures that clearly DISTINGUISH Jesus as someone OTHER THAN our God, and illogically try to say they mean Jesus and the Father together make up our God!  You are on J…[Read more]