So many here believe that Jesus is just 'a god' to serve and bow down to and not worship. Let's see if serving and bowing down to 'a god' is allowed, ok?Here we see that serving and bowing down to another gods is not allowed, in fact this makes God very angry. 2 Kings 17:35 with whom the LORD made a covenant and commanded them, saying, “You shall…[Read more]

Mike,I am not going to post in the debates for a while…I have a big kitchen design and wedding and school stuff coming up. I will pick back up with this at a later time Peace, Kathi

Mike,Where in scriptures does it specifically say that God created the god satan or the god of Ekron, or the gods of Egypt. Also, can you think of a higher Son than the Only Begotten Son? If not, that would make the Only Begotten Son the Most High Son or the Most High Only Begotten Son (same thing) wouldn't it?Quote Please actually ADDRESS these…[Read more]

Mikeboll64Quote You acknowledge that Jesus was the god who was with THE God in John 1:1. So you're okay with Jesus being A god who is NOT the Father because Jesus is “good”.No way, that is not what I acknowledge. A small g…where have I ever said that??Jehovah Most High is the Father and the Son. There is Jehovah Most High Father, Jehovah as…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 16 2011,18:48)Hi Kathi,I don't know if you ever answered this question:If the Unity of the Father and Son is “Jehovah”, and we know the Son has the PERSONAL NAME of “Jesus”, what is the Father's PERSONAL NAME?They have many names…Jehovah is common to both of them. Like the word 'church' again…there is one church, yet…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 16 2011,18:42)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 15 2011,22:03)Mike,I analyzed the Greek of John 17:12 which says this:”While I was with them, I was keeping them in Your name which You have given Me; and I guarded them and not one of them perished but the son of perdition, so that the Scripture would be fulfilled.The pronoun 'which'…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 16 2011,18:16)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 15 2011,21:36)Mike,He likely got that name when He was begotten before creation.  Not being given a name does not mean one does not exist.Perhaps not Kathi,But it DOES mean that “Jehovah” didn't ALWAYS consist of both the Father AND the Son, right?  Because at one time, the Son a…[Read more]

Mike,It is quite clear that Jehovah is not the maker of these 'gods.'Ezekial 16:17 You also took the fine jewelry I gave you, the jewelry made of my gold and silver, and youmade for yourself male idols and engaged in prostitution with themLeviticus 18:21 “'Do not give any of your children to be sacrificed to Molech, for you must not profane the…[Read more]

Mike,Quote There is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING in any scripture to suggest that Satan, or the gods of Egypt etc, were anything other than exactly what Jehovah Himself called them.Jehovah had more scriptures for me to put up.Deuteronomy 4:35 You were shown these things so that you might know that the Jehovah is God; besides him there is no…[Read more]

Thanks Irene, I appreciate it. I fixed the link.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 15 2011,20:04)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 14 2011,23:38)Mike,Quote Kathi, can you show me any SCRIPTURAL evidence, proof, or even an inkling that Satan is less than a real, bonafide god?'Seriously, Mike, you think that satan is a real bonafide god now?  Wow, I'll bet your 'bonafide god' is ready to give you and the peanut…[Read more]

Just being truthful and respectful, not holding on to bitterness, t8.

I am sending off my very dear 22 year old son today as he follows his dream of living abroad for a year.  He will be teaching English in South Korea and I will miss him very much although I am excited for him as well.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lk6gdX1WCd8&feature=relatedMay God bless and keep him and make His face shine upon him and grant him…[Read more]

Irene,You believe many wrong things and I leave you to your choosing. God knows and we can only pray for His mercy.Good bye to you too,Kathi

Quote (shimmer @ Aug. 16 2011,06:24)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 16 2011,16:34)21“Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter. 22“Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Yo…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 15 2011,20:04)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 14 2011,23:38)Mike,Quote Kathi, can you show me any SCRIPTURAL evidence, proof, or even an inkling that Satan is less than a real, bonafide god?'Seriously, Mike, you think that satan is a real bonafide god now?  Wow, I'll bet your 'bonafide god' is ready to give you and the peanut…[Read more]

Irene,Within a unity there can be one that is head over another, so what.? Eph 4 speaks of there being one Lord too but you seem to gloss over that. Psa 83:18 can be speaking about a unity and not necessarily about one person.Keep shaking your head that might actually help

Quote (shimmer @ Aug. 15 2011,20:25)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 16 2011,09:51)This Ezekial verse is for the group here that denies the deity AND divine Sonship of Christ, they are the ones that are guilty of 'paining the righteous' that believe in the deity of Christ.  They do not correct the ones that do not believe in the deity of Christ but…[Read more]

Mike,I analyzed the Greek of John 17:12 which says this:”While I was with them, I was keeping them in Your name which You have given Me; and I guarded them and not one of them perished but the son of perdition, so that the Scripture would be fulfilled.The pronoun 'which' is written in the singular neuter form and refers to the 'name' which is also…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 15 2011,19:49)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 15 2011,11:43)John 17:11“I am no longer in the world; and yet they themselves are in the world, and I come to You. Holy Father, keep them in Your name, the name which You have given Me, that they may be one even as We are. 12“While I was with them, I was keeping them in Your name whi…[Read more]