Mike,Deborah was a judge, not a god. We are never to bow down to a god Mike. Scripture is clear on this.2 Kings 17:35 with whom the LORD made a covenant and commanded them, saying, “You shall not fear other gods, nor bow down yourselves to them nor serve them nor sacrifice to them.Kathi

Mike,If God called satan the god of anything it is simply because satan exalted himself and demands worship. God agrees that satan exalted himself and is demanding worship and therefore calls him a god. The gods of Egypt are referred to as their gods not 'His' gods. He did not make anyone gods, the gods made themselves gods. End of fairy…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 22 2011,21:37)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 21 2011,21:54)They will worship Christ…every knee will bow whether it be in heaven or on earth.They will do obeisance to Christ, and worship the same God that Christ himself worships and calls “my God”.  (Hint, he says that his God is the same God as our God.  That fits right in w…[Read more]

Mike,you asked:Quote When Jehovah called Satan the god of Ekron, did He LIE? I have alread answered this:Quote I never said that he is not called a god, however, that no way means that he was made to be a god.

Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 22 2011,19:31)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 23 2011,08:57)Pierre,Do the scriptures say that the fleshly body always lived?  If not, then it was given life at some point.KathiKathidid you heard that the soul that sins is the one that dies ?so the soul that not sins will live ,as simple as thatPierrePierre,I asked you if the…[Read more]

No Irene and Mike, Eating His body is not literal, it is symbolic. Jesus compares His body as our bread. His flesh body was from heaven because His Father prepared a body for Him. It is clear that we are to 'eat' His flesh body in a figurative way and that goes along with your topic verse. Mike, I don't know what you mean when you say it seems…[Read more]

Mike, The context talks about 'eating' Him and that refers to His flesh body.NASB ©”As the living Father sent Me, and I live because of the Father, so he who eats Me, he also will live because of Me.1 Cor 11:24 and when He had given thanks, He broke it and said, “This is My body, which is for you; do this in remembrance of Me.” 25In the same way…[Read more]

Irene,Here the scriptures say that Jesus had all power when He was resurrected:16Then the eleven disciples went away into Galilee, into a mountain where Jesus had appointed them. 17And when they saw him, they worshipped him: but some doubted. 18And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. 19Go ye…[Read more]

Hi Happyman,Jesus was begotten before creation, He was not created. You are right that His flesh was given life by His Father…it was when His body was conceived in the womb of Mary.

Irene,I will agree to consider the KJV but also the other translations, not the KJV only. If the KJV is correct then the original language should prove that out. We don't need to be afraid of looking at newer translations…they are translated from older manuscripts which are more reliable. The closer the manuscript is to the event, the more…[Read more]

Pierre,Do the scriptures say that the fleshly body always lived? If not, then it was given life at some point.Kathi

That is right Pierre which makes the case for the unity speaking and acting as one.Kathi

Irene,Quote If you are going to start to accuse me of this Scripture or some like it, I am done with debating you….. That is not what a Christians should do….either stop, or I will stop….get it Kathi…. Now, that sounds like a threat to me that says “If you are going to disagree with me, well then that is not what Christians should do and…[Read more]

You are welcome Irene, it made me cry too and my son who was still at home packing to go, gave me a big hug and said that he would be back before I knew it. He is safe and sound and enjoying his new adventure. Thanks for praying for him. I know what you mean about your baby boy even though he is almost 50. I guess they will always be that wide…[Read more]

The Father gave the flesh body life, not the pre-existent person who always existed. The flesh body didn't always exist, the pre-existent person did.

Irene,You write firstborn but then you try to say that it is first created. The reason you give is Rev 3:14 which has the word arche' which you say means 'first' but it really means 'ruler' here. NIV”To the angel of the church in Laodicea write: These are the words of the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the ruler of God's creation.Col 1:16…[Read more]

Mike,Look at what you said:Quote If you are reading “el” or “elohim” in the Hebrew Scriptures, then be prepared for “god” to refer to Jehovah, one of his angels, a demon, or even a human being. And accept it for what it is and how they used the word back then.You even state that the word sometimes translated as God/god refers to…and then you…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Aug. 18 2011,00:12)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 15 2011,23:07)Mike,Many can be called gods because someone or something is being worshiped.  That is not by God's design, he is against this.Explain, “ye are gods, you are all sons of the Most High God”.And:“All who worship images are put to shame, those who boast in idols–worship him, all…[Read more]

Irene,You have asked me this:Quote Kathi! What do I believe that is wrong? Yes, I believe according to Scriptures that Jehovah is Jesus Fathers name ALONE…. Is that what you mean???IreneFor starters, you believe that 'firstborn' means 'first created' which it does not.Kathi

Irene,I will answer you here:https://www.heavennet.net/cgi-bin….957;r=1Peace,Kathi