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Lightenup replied to the topic Keith's Thread in the forum About Believers Place 14 years, 8 months ago
Quote (t8 @ Sep. 12 2011,23:51)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 13 2011,06:54)Jehovah in the fullest sense is the unity of the Father and Son and their SpiritThat is false Kathi.Jehovah (YHWH) is the only God and in the New Testament, this God not only has a son, but is the true God and Father of us all, even of Jesus Christ.You are not speaking truth on…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Keith's Thread in the forum About Believers Place 14 years, 8 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 12 2011,20:26)"Jehovah in the fullest sense"?
Okay. But you need to change your signature then. What you say there conflicts with what you say now.
Why is that conflicting with my signature. How should I word my signature to better express this?KathiLightenup replied to the topic Is God Almighty One? Two? Or Three? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 14 years, 8 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 11 2011,12:58)Yes Kathi,Just like “elohim” is plural. It is commonly referred to as a “plural of majesty”. The Hebrews didn't have a capital letter to distinguish between, say, “Lord” and “lord”. The way they did it was to pluralize a word that we today would simply capitalize. Instead of “God”, they would say “go…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Examination of the incarnation doctrine. in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 8 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 12 2011,18:11)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 12 2011,14:32)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 11 2011,14:41)Kathi's version: Then you will know that I am THE GREAT “I AM”……………………and I do nothing of my own authority.Kathi, by WHOSE authority does the Great “I AM” operate?
The Father's authority as always.So the “Great I A…[Read more]Lightenup replied to the topic John 8:25 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 14 years, 8 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 12 2011,18:49)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 11 2011,22:08)Mike, It appears by your last comment that you did not read this. Jehovah and I AM of Exodus 3:14 are different Hebrew words. I read it. I just don't know what you're trying to tell me with it. Isn't it your contention that the Name God gave to Moses equals the words “…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic John 8:25 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 14 years, 8 months ago
And what does the name 'Jesus' mean…Jehovah our Righteousness.
Lightenup replied to the topic Examination of the incarnation doctrine. in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 8 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 11 2011,14:41)Kathi's version: Then you will know that I am THE GREAT “I AM”……………………and I do nothing of my own authority.Kathi, by WHOSE authority does the Great “I AM” operate?
The Father's authority as always.Lightenup replied to the topic John 8:25 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 14 years, 8 months ago
Happyman,Jehovah is the God of gods and the Lord of lords. For us we have one God, the Father and one Lord, Jesus Christ.Jehovah in the fullest sense is the unity of the Father and Son and their SpiritEach member of this unity is also called Jehovah, one as the Father and one as the Son(Jehovah our Righteousness).Context will help.Do you believe…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Keith's Thread in the forum About Believers Place 14 years, 8 months ago
Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 07 2011,11:54)Mike,The root is the pre-existent Son, the 'sprout' is the human Son, together they are the incarnation of the begotten God and flesh man.Jehovah in the fullest sense is the unity of the Father and Son and their SpiritEach member of this unity is also called Jehovah, one as the Father and one as the…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The temptation of Jesus Christ in the forum The Hot Seat 14 years, 8 months ago
none.
Lightenup replied to the topic John 8:25 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 14 years, 8 months ago
Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 11 2011,15:22)Mike,you said:Quote It is your assertion that when Jesus utters the most common pronoun-verb combination in any language, he is secretly telling us he is Jehovah God, right? You are taking the “I AM” to mean “Jehovah”, right? Let's spell it out your way:John 8:24That is why I told you that you will die in y…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The temptation of Jesus Christ in the forum The Hot Seat 14 years, 8 months ago
Mike,I am not a polytheist. You just don't understand how God can be a compound unity of more than one person who are both God by original eternal nature, one as the Father and the other as the Son with their eternal Spirit.No need to comment Mike. I know you don't get it. Kathi
Lightenup replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 8 months ago
Irene,Thank you for your apology. Do you really want me to dig up the other insults that you have thrown at me that were uncalled for? I can if you want to go through them.Kathi
Lightenup replied to the topic The temptation of Jesus Christ in the forum The Hot Seat 14 years, 8 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 11 2011,14:30)So, then you DO think we have TWO Almighty Gods? And you DO worship TWO Almighty Gods?Kathi, why hide behind confusing word games? If you believe in and worship TWO Almighty Gods, then have to GUTS and CONVICTION to just say so boldly and without confusion, okay?Mike,Still other seed fell on fertile soil. T…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The temptation of Jesus Christ in the forum The Hot Seat 14 years, 8 months ago
Mike,Satan IS extremely illogical, he is the father of lies. To speak lies when the ONE who is truth and is your judge can hear you, is extremely illogical. He exalts himself as a god…that alone tells you how illogical he is.Also, you will have to account for all your careless insults before God's throne one day.Matt 12:36 “But I tell you t…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic John 8:25 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 14 years, 8 months ago
Mike,you said:Quote It is your assertion that when Jesus utters the most common pronoun-verb combination in any language, he is secretly telling us he is Jehovah God, right? You are taking the “I AM” to mean “Jehovah”, right? Let's spell it out your way:John 8:24That is why I told you that you will die in your sins, for unless you believe that…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic John 8:25 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 14 years, 8 months ago
Mike,From what is said in the NET notes, Jehovah means He IS. Jehovah is third person singular of the I AM pronoun/verb.Also from the NET notes:”Others argue for a causative Hiphil translation of “I will cause to be,” but nowhere in the Bible does this verb appear in Hiphil or Piel.“Furthermore, since God doesn't change, the future tense that you…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Examination of the incarnation doctrine. in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 8 months ago
John 12:48“He who rejects Me and does not receive My sayings, has one who judges him; the word I spoke is what will judge him at the last day. 49“For I did not speak on My own initiative, but the Father Himself who sent Me has given Me a commandment as to what to say and what to speak. 50“I know that His commandment is eternal life; there…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic John 8:25 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 14 years, 8 months ago
Mike,The NET Bible translator notes disagree with you as well as most translations. NET ©God said to Moses, “I am that I am.” 1 And he said, “You must say this 2 to the Israelites, ‘I am has sent me to you.’”NIV ©God said to Moses, “I AM WHO I AM. This is what you are to say to the Israelites: ‘I AM has sent me to you.’”NASB ©God said to Mos…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The temptation of Jesus Christ in the forum The Hot Seat 14 years, 8 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 11 2011,12:49)What does that mean, Kathi? Does it mean you have only ONE God, who is made up of TWO persons? Or does it mean you have TWO GODS who are one in purpose?Because in the Freak Greek thread, you clearly said that Jesus was A DIFFERENT GOD who was with “THE God” in the beginning.It seems to me that we both a…[Read more]
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