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Lightenup replied to the topic John 8:25 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 14 years, 8 months ago
Clearly barley,You have no grasp on the active voice of the Greek words. Learn about it and then learn how you actually have to be existing before you can say 'I am' in the active voice.Also, Abraham lives…Let scripture speak:26“But regarding the fact that the dead rise again, have you not read in the book of Moses, in the passage about the b…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic John 8:25 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 14 years, 8 months ago
Quote (Is 1:18 @ Sep. 19 2011,02:42)You're doing a great job in this thread Kathi. I agree with you, many times Yeshua applied the “I AM” title to Himself and the significance was not lost on his listeners (e.g. John 8:59). The important point, which seems to escape t8 every time, is when He applies “ego eimi” to Himself it is unpredicated. So…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic John 8:25 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 14 years, 8 months ago
So barley,I was wondering…could you say this:”Before my grandfather was born, I AM?”didn't think so.
Lightenup replied to the topic Examination of the incarnation doctrine. in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 8 months ago
Paladin,Quote You are correct, in that spirit is genitive. I've got to stop posting when I get tired.The nominative neuter singular relative pronoun “o” replaces spirit which is genitive neuter singular, not sword which is accusative feminine singular.It does not throw off my understanding of the verse because I was not even aware I was stating…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic John 8:25 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 14 years, 8 months ago
So Jesus told them, “When you have lifted up the Son of Man, then you will know that I AM, and that I do nothing on my own authority. Instead, I speak only what the Father has taught me.Summing Himself up as I AM is brilliant. It is such a simple, yet profound statement. It is such an undefined and non-limiting name that Jesus is relating…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic John 8:25 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 14 years, 8 months ago
Quote Who did Jesus claim to be?I AM
Lightenup replied to the topic John 8:25 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 14 years, 8 months ago
Actually, if you feel the need to substitute I AM for the Hebrew word, you would use 'eh yeh. His name is 'eh yeh according to Exodus 3:14.That would look like this:John 8:28 So Jesus told them, “When you have lifted up the Son of Man, then you will know that 'eh yeh, and that I do nothing on my own authority. Instead, I speak only what the…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Examination of the incarnation doctrine. in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 8 months ago
Quote (Paladin @ Sep. 18 2011,08:17)Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 18 2011,11:27)Quote (Paladin @ Sep. 18 2011,05:49)Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 18 2011,10:40)Quote (Paladin @ Sep. 17 2011,01:12)John 1:1 does not say anything about “in the beginning was pre-existant Jesus, pirit.and pre-existant Jesus was with God, and pre-existant Jesus was God;” and John 1:14 does…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Keith's Thread in the forum About Believers Place 14 years, 8 months ago
Mike,Who is the Lord in this verse?Matthew 11:25 (NASB) 25 At that time Jesus said, "I praise You, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that You have hidden these things from the wise and intelligent and have revealed them to infants. And who is the 'God' in this verse:Hebrews 1:8But of the Son He says, "YOUR THRONE, O GOD, IS FOREVER AND EVER, AND…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Keith's Thread in the forum About Believers Place 14 years, 8 months ago
Mike,Quote Yet for US, there is only ONE God………….THE FATHER. And one Lord…………Jesus Christ.That makes two that are deity for millions of those of us who have faith in the deity of the Father and the Son.

Lightenup replied to the topic Is God Almighty One? Two? Or Three? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 14 years, 8 months ago
Mike,I'm still researching this but you can cross off Nebuchadnezzar and Artaxerxes. Neither of them are kings of kings. They are both singular, i.e. king of kings according to the morphology that is in my new study tool.
Lightenup replied to the topic The temptation of Jesus Christ in the forum The Hot Seat 14 years, 8 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 12 2011,20:40)Kathi,How many θεοὶ are mentioned in John 1:1? (θεοὶ is the plural form of theos)none. But there are two who are theos in John 1:1 and they are not the same person.
Lightenup replied to the topic John 8:25 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 14 years, 8 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 15 2011,19:30)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 14 2011,21:37)Joshua of Jericho had the Hebrew version of 'Jesus' but he was a type of the Jesus who actually was the Messiah.AND…………..?!?!?Kathi, find another way to prove Jesus is God, okay? “Jesus” was a VERY COMMON name in the time of Christ, Kathi. And one can't s…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic John 8:25 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 14 years, 8 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 15 2011,19:32)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 14 2011,21:51)John 8:28 does not have a direct object after it and that causes it to stand out and be used differently than normal which is when a direct object is expected.Kathi,Why not DIRECTLY address the points in my post at the top of this page and end this charade?Mike,Your…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic John 8:25 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 14 years, 8 months ago
Quote (Pastry @ Sep. 15 2011,03:07)Kathi! Then why does it say Jehovah is God the Most Hogh God ALONE in \Psa 83:18 that they may know that you alone, whose name is the LORD, are the Most High over all the earth. The Bible does not contradict itself. Mike and t8 are right…..IreneIrene,Look at this verse:Isaiah 44:24 Thus said Jehovah, thy re…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Compound unity scriptural database in the forum Group Discussions 14 years, 8 months ago
Here is another of those verses in the OT that has a plural translated as a singular:Ecclesiates 12:1 Remember also your Creator in the days of your youth, before the evil days come and the years draw near when you will say, “I have no delight in them”;Here, the word 'Creator' is actually a plural word in the original Hebrew.A couple of…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Is God Almighty One? Two? Or Three? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 14 years, 8 months ago
Mike,Quote 2 Chronicles 28:16 NIVAt that time King Ahaz sent to the king of Assyria for help.This word 'king' is translated as 'kings' in many versions. The commentaries have different ideas about this. One says that 'kings' means the king and his son. (Gill) Another says 'kings' means princes, who may be called kings in a more general…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Is God Almighty One? Two? Or Three? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 14 years, 8 months ago
Thanks Mike, I am going to have a look at those in my new study tool.
Lightenup replied to the topic John 8:25 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 14 years, 8 months ago
Quote (t8 @ Sep. 12 2011,23:09)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 04 2011,02:01)John 8:24 is mistranslated. Earlier manuscripts do not have the added words. You knew that probably though didn't you.John 8:24 That is why I told you that you will die in your sins, for unless you believe that I AM, you will die in your sins.”You are interested in truth, r…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic John 8:25 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 14 years, 8 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 12 2011,20:01)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 12 2011,17:59)And what does the name 'Jesus' mean…Jehovah our Righteousness.Well, “Jesus” is the English way to say “Iesous”. And “Iesous” is the Greek way to say “Joshua”. And “Joshua” is the Hebrew way to say “Jehovah is our Righteousness”.Now, is EVERYONE in the scriptures w…[Read more]
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