Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 06 2011,19:17)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 06 2011,12:38)They did not have the fuller revelation that the Word of God was actually His Son.What does the Targum say about Psalm 2:7 and Proverbs 30:4?peace,mikeMike,This is what the Psalms Targum says for chapter 2:salm 21. Why are the Gentiles disturbed, and the nations…[Read more]

Quote (Paladin @ Oct. 06 2011,18:37)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 05 2011,17:19)Quote (Paladin @ Oct. 04 2011,03:33)Paladin, I fail to see what you claim is 'even more interesting.'  There is nothing in your post to contradict what Boyer said which I quoted and put a link to.I also do not know why you are struggling with this.  What would be the &…[Read more]

Kerwin, The Word of God was a person with the Father in the beginning who was loved by the Father and who was begotten by the Father to work alongside Him before the foundation of the world.  The Word was His Son and that is what makes the Word a God.  They together are one as a unity and act towards us as one voice with one purpose.  The Ta…[Read more]

Look at these two verses together through the eyes of God, in His fullness, being a unity of the Father and the Son as the one Jehovah.Romans 11:33 Oh, the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! How unsearchable are His judgments and unfathomable His ways! 34For WHO HAS KNOWN THE MIND OF THE LORD, OR WHO BECAME HIS COUNSELOR?…[Read more]

Kerwin and Gene,You are certainly welcome Gene, I have been using that site for over a year now and it truly has a lot to offer. Look on the 'parallel' tab and see many translations of the verse, then go to the bottom of that page and see the various commentary on that verse. I especially like John Gill since he knows the original languages and…[Read more]

Quote (Paladin @ Oct. 04 2011,03:33)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 02 2011,08:23)Paladin, I fail to see what you claim is 'even more interesting.'  There is nothing in your post to contradict what Boyer said which I quoted and put a link to.I also do not know why you are struggling with this.  What would be the 'sword' of the word of God?  If you re…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 04 2011,23:12)Paladin,Is the use of Aion in Hebrews 1:2 singular or plural in Hebrews 1:2.Mike believes it is singular.I would like to know how to tell the difference and what source on the internet my aid me in learning.Thank you.Hi Kerwin,I can help you with this. The word is plural in that instance.Go…[Read more]

Mike,First, I just want you to realize that the OT Jews were familiar with the name “the Word of God” because of how they used it in the targums. Do you know this?Go here for a good article on that: http://www.bibleword.org/memra.shtmlHere is an excerpt:And from the Catholic Encyclopedia: “In Palestinian Rabbinism the Word (memra) is very…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 03 2011,22:26)Irene,Ex 19:9The LORD said to Moses, “I am going to come to you in a dense cloud, so that the people will hear me speaking with you and will always put their trust in you.” 20:18 When the people saw the thunder and lightning and heard the trumpet and saw the mountain in smoke, they trembled with fear. The…[Read more]

The OT Jews replaced the word “God” with the “Word of God” and that “Word of God” did things as if the “Word of God” were a person who was the spokesperson part of God. This does go along with what I have been saying about the two acting interdependently with each other as one unity. The Father's word was delivered by the “Word of God” as it…[Read more]

Mike,What I was pointing out is that the name 'The Word of God' was a name that the Jews were very familiar with in the OT and associated with God as somehow the part of Him that could be heard and seen without Him actually being heard or seen. I read that the word “God” was at times replaced with “the Word of God.”About no man hearing God the…[Read more]

Mike,Quote I don't see “the Word of YHWH” actually BEING YHWH anywhere in this information.Compare these two renditions of Gen 1:27And the Word of YHWH created man in his likeness,in the likeness of YHWH, YHWH created,male and female created He them.(Targ. Jonathan Gen. 1:27)God created man in His own image, in the image of God He created him;…[Read more]

Ok, I dug some up here:This “Word of YHWH” was, according to Targum Jonathan, the Creator:And the Word of YHWH created man in his likeness,in the likeness of YHWH, YHWH created,male and female created He them.(Targ. Jonathan Gen. 1:27)This idea is also put forward in the Jerusalem Targum:And the Word of YHWH said to Moses:”I am He who said unto…[Read more]

I think that ya'll should study how the Jews spoke about 'the Word of God' in their paraphrase of the scriptures. I believe it is called the Talmud or the Targums but if you want to know more, I can dig it up for you.From what I remember, the Jews would replace 'Jehovah' with 'the Word of God' when Jehovah was seen or heard since they knew that…[Read more]

Paladin?Quote Paul tells us reema I S the Spirit. Eph 6:10Finally, be strong in the Lord, and in the strength of his might. 11Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. 12For our wrestling is not against flesh and blood, but against the principalities, against the powers, against the world's rulers…[Read more]

Quote (Paladin @ Sep. 30 2011,09:26)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 22 2011,04:26)Quote (Paladin @ Sep. 21 2011,04:35)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 20 2011,06:50)Paladin,Quote You are correct, in that spirit is genitive. I've got to stop posting when I get tired.The nominative neuter singular  relative pronoun “o” replaces spirit which is genitive neuter…[Read more]

Paladin,Thank you for your lengthy and in depth response. I will have to look at it more closely when I am in the mood for all that technical grammar info. I'm sorry that you have cancer and have to endure all the radiation. May God give you strength and walk with you through your battles.Kathi

Mike,I can talk to both of them and they both hear me…you need me to talk to both of them!What you have clearly demonstrated in this thread is that if Jesus said exactly what you asked for, you would change it to mean that He was saying that He was our master and ruler. You will never be satisfied till you get to drill Jesus with your…[Read more]

Could you say what Thomas said to Jesus, Irene?John 20:2828Thomas answered and said to Him, “My Lord and my God!” 29Jesus said to him, “Because you have seen Me, have you believed? Blessed are they who did not see, and yet believed.”Kathi

Quote (t8 @ Sep. 25 2011,16:36)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 25 2011,14:11)Thanks guys but I did know that theos doesn't always mean God.  Of course all other 'theos' were not begotten that way…as theos, just the only Begotten God, and all others mentioned as 'theos/elohim' didn't have divine nature like HE was born with aside from His Father.  And a…[Read more]