@Berean

Furthermore, as a follow up question, I asked GROK this for your benefit as an SDA:

Is it possible that Ellen White would believe that Jesus is the Lord of lords in Deuteronomy 10:17?

GROK’s reply:

Yes, it is possible that Ellen White would believe Jesus is the “Lord of lords” described in Deuteronomy 10:17. As a co-founder of Seventh-day…

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@Berean

Thanks for your answer. This might be an interesting discussion. I asked GROK this question:

Is it possible that Jesus is the Lord of lords in Deuteronomy 10:17

Here is the answer it gave me:

Yes, from a Christian theological perspective, it is possible—and indeed a common interpretation—that Jesus is identified with the “Lord of lor…

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@Proclaimer

You wrote:

Hebrews 3:11 (quoting Psalm 95:11):
“So I swore in my wrath, They shall not enter into my rest.”

You do realize that verse has nothing to do with the seventh day rest, right? The rest mentioned in Hebrews 3:11 is about the particular generation of Israelites not being allowed into the promise land due to their dis…[Read more]

@Proclaimer

You asked:

So you’re saying it was a spiritual day / light that also had evening and morning?

Good question, I think that the light of day one has to do with the Son of God who is “The Light of the World” entering the dimension of creation.

The term “day” was what God called the light. The darkness that was called night is d…[Read more]

Hi Berean,

I’m happy to see you as well. I appreciate your kind words.

I agree with what you wrote. Do you agree that Deut 10:17 could be mentioning two persons as YHWH, God of gods and Lord of lords, in light of there being one God and one Lord as mentioned in the NT?

Deut 10:17 For He, your God YHWH, God of the gods and Lord of the…[Read more]

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Hi Proclaimer,

To answer your question above, I say no, “evening and morning” is not proof of 24 hour days. We are told this though:

Exodus 20:11 For in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth and the sea and all that is in them, but on the seventh day He rested. Therefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day and set it apart as holy.

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carmel,

You said:

JESUS, SCRIPTURAL, LEFT THIS WORLD AFTER FORTY DAYS!

Jesus went to the Father in heaven on the third day and came back that day. After forty days, He went to heaven and stayed.

This is clear in John 20

…16Jesus said to her, “Mary.” She turned and said to Him in Hebrew, “Rabboni!” (which means “Teacher”). 17“Do not cling to Me…

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Procleimer,

You said:

Jesus is not God, he is His Son. We are not God, we are his sons.

Believers will have the relationship as a son to God the Father as Jesus does, I agree. Believers will have a glorious body like Jesus’ glorious body, I agree. However, believers do not become sons in the same way that Jesus originally became a son, therefore,…[Read more]

Berean,

You asked:

AS YOU CAN READ ABOVE, A SON OF MAN ROSE ON THE THIRD DAY, WHILE ANOTHER SON OF MAN REMAINED THREE DAYS AND THREE NIGHTS IN THE HEART OF THE EARTH/HELL!

Answer please:

IS THE SON OF MAN MENTIONED IN MARK THE SAME SON OF MAN MENTIONED IN MATTHEW?

It is the same person.

Hi Jodi,

It’s been a while. I hope you are doing well considering your recent loss.

I would like to know your understanding of what the One who existed in the form of God emptied himself of as spoken of in Philippians 2:

5Have this attitude in yourselves which was also in Christ Jesus, 6who, although He existed in the form of God, did not…

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Carmel,

Jesus rose on the third day. Jesus was always perfect. Jesus is not the Father. Jesus did not inherit the nations until he returned to the Father on the the day Psalms 2 refers to, the day of his resurrection.

Hi Berean

You said:

A point where I agree with you IS THAT YES JESUS ON THE THIRD DAY OR THE FOLLOWING DAY WENT TO THE FATHER.

Great! I believe that the ascension to the Father in the active sense by the Son was in-between when Jesus had risen and appeared to Mary and meeting with the men on the road to Emmaus. I believe that because Psalms 2…[Read more]

Carmel,

The Son of Man IS Jesus who before He became Jesus, the Son of Man (aka Son of David) was the only begotten Son of God, begotten before the ages, who was anointed to become flesh and suffer on the cross as the promised Messiah to take away our sins and then inherit the nations.

Your turn 🙂

Gene,

Read this:

John 8:21Then He said again to them, “I go away, and you will seek Me, and will die in your sin; where I am going, you cannot come.” 22So the Jews were saying, “Surely He will not kill Himself, will He, since He says, ‘Where I am going, you cannot come’?” 23And He was saying to them, “You are from below, I am from above; you are…

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Proclaimer,

Please address this post that was posted about 11 days ago:

Proclaimer:

You said:

If you agree that the first Adam was a prototype, then why not the final Adam?

LU: The second Adam was a life giving spirit. Is there another person that is a life giving spirit modeled after the second Adam? I don’t know of any.

Jesus is the f…

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Carmel,

Are you clear that the Son of Man did not inherit the nations before His crucifixion but instead after?

Just yes or no Carmel, please don’t make it complicated.

Hi Berean,

You said:

LUK 24
And it came to pass, while he blessed them, he was parted from them, and carried up into heaven.

This verse shows us that Jesus is not the author of the action to go to HEAVEN.

“he was parted from them, and carried up into heaven.”

It’s the “passive voice.”

That’s great Berean, you are getting the idea of the pass…[Read more]

Hi Berean,

You said:

In the case of Jesus “Resurrection” means physically passing from death to life.
And “ascension” to “rise” from earth to HEAVEN.

Can you show me a verse that Jesus was resurrected before He met Mary in the garden where the verse actually has the Greek word for “resurrected” and not just “raised up?”

I believe that the ra…[Read more]