Mike,you said:Quote Sure he was, if you base your understanding on ALL of the scriptures, Kathi.  That's what Eusebius and I do on this subject.No he wasn't ever referred to as the only 'created son.'  It refers to Him as an only 'begotten son.'  You are twisting the meanings to force it to fit your theology.Quote Jesus was begotten by his God, th…[Read more]

Mike,Read my signature…it tells you

Mike,you wrote:Quote What great accomplishments did John succeed at while inside the womb of Elizabeth? Did he pave the way for his Lord while in there? Did he baptize anyone? Was there anything great that he did that could be attributed to John except for “leaping for joy”?Pointless argument…what great accomplishments did the Father succeed…[Read more]

Mike,you wrote:Quote Here are a couple commentaries on what Eusebius wrote to his diocese:And though he insists on our Lord being alone, ἐκ θεοῦ, yet he means in the sense that he alone was created immediately from God…………“he alone was created immediately from God”You won't find those words in scripture!Jesus was never referred to as the…[Read more]

Mike,You said:Quote Just like since the word “begotten” always describes the beginning of the existence of a being anywhere else in history, it could also describe exactly what it sounds like it's describing in the case of Jesus, right?Read this account of Mary and Elizabeth…Elizabeth was in her 'sixth month' and the baby within her was…[Read more]

Mike,You said:Quote The Nicene Creed that I agree with is the one from 325Read this part of the 325 creed and then tell me if you agree with it:We believe in one God the Father Almighty, Maker of all things visible and invisible; and in one Lord Jesus Christ, the only begotten of the Father, that is, of the substance of the Father, God of God,…[Read more]

Jack,You said:Quote But when ever I expound my view to a certain individual here I get beat over the head that is not the common view among Trinitarians. This person needs to review what this site is all about.Maybe you wouldn't be called out on disagreeing with the mainstream trinitarians if you weren't CONSTANTLY classifying yourself as one of…[Read more]

Irene,Unbelievable what all is happening in your family. If only we could see beyond this world and see that life continues in a much better place, perhaps that would bring comfort. Unfortunately we have to wait for that and trust that it is so by faith. These things are out of your control, Irene…just press on and encourage your family to…[Read more]

Hi William,Can you please clarify something for me regarding this statement that you wrote:Quote The Father is best understood as being like our soul, embodying self (God in this case), exerting His will over His corporeal extension (the future begotten Son). So just as a human being's body provides our soul with its interface to the world, so the…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 04 2011,17:02)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 03 2011,23:00)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 03 2011,17:37)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 02 2011,21:18)The Apostle's Creed: I believe in God,    the Father almighty,    Creator of heaven and earth,    and in Jesus Christ, his only Son, our Lord,The Nicene Creed:We believe in one God the Fathe…[Read more]

Mike,you said:Quote I believe that both instances of “dia” in Col 1:16 should be rendered as “through”.Can you show me where 'dia' is used more than once in Col 1:16?I asked:Quote All things came through the Son…right…not the Father?You replied:Quote Yes, that is my understanding. Will you bring up Romans 11:36 now? Romans 11:36 does provide…[Read more]

Irene,What difficult times you are facing! As always we are to keep our eyes on Jesus during the storm and during the calm. He is the lifter of your head.http://www.womensministry.net/public….art.cfmMy prayers are with you, your family, and the others injured. May God give His healing touch and comfort at this time. I am thankful for the…[Read more]

Irene,That is so sad. I will keep your family in my prayers!

Mike,So would you please confirm for me that all things came from one person and through another person and therefore there were two persons involved in creation…right?Also, it seems that you would prefer the YLT's translation of Col 1:16 which says:because in him were the all things created, those in the heavens, and those upon the earth, those…[Read more]

Mike,You said:Quote And I also agree with the Athanasius creed – just not with the anathema tacked to the end of it. (If I'm remembering that creed correctly)Read what it says and then tell me whether or not you agree with the Athanasius creed..all except the anathema.Athanasian Creed1. Whosoever will be saved, before all things it is necessary…[Read more]

Mike,Trinitarians, nor myself believe that Jesus is the Father that He was begotten from which you don't seem to accept. The Nicene Creed does give the Son of God credit for all creation as being created BY the Son. From this phrase we see that the Son worked with the Father in the act of creation: “by whom all things were made.”Blessings,Kathi

Keith,you said:Quote The only explanation is God is a plural being!Glad to have you back.  You speak of the unity a little differently than I do.  I would say that the explanation is that the Godhead is made up of more than one being, acting in unity as one God authority with their Holy Spirit, each being having deity nature.Blessings,Kathi

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 03 2011,17:37)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 02 2011,21:18)The Apostle's Creed: I believe in God,    the Father almighty,    Creator of heaven and earth,    and in Jesus Christ, his only Son, our Lord,The Nicene Creed:We believe in one God the Father Almighty, Maker of heaven and earth, and of all things visible and invis…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ Nov. 03 2011,11:11)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 03 2011,14:18)Jack,If my view were 'illegitimate' so would all Christians that confess these three creeds.  Obviously you do not confess these creeds common to Christianity because they either show a belief in God the Father as the creator and /or a belief that the Son was…[Read more]

Hi Ted,Yes, it has been a while…I'm doing great, thanks! I hope all is well with you too As far as what you have said, you are right that the forces of evil will be more deliberate. We need to meditate on God's Holy Word day and night and keep hiding His Word in our hearts, put on that armor daily and take up our cross and follow Christ. We…[Read more]