Mike,

You said: but where did the water come from?

Perhaps this river of the water of life supplied the water that covered the earth.

Rev 22:1 Then he showed me a river of the water of life, clear as crystal, coming from the throne of God and of the Lamb,…

Regarding COVID, I haven’t partaken of the jab, nor have I had the dreaded virus but…[Read more]

The Father is “the” God who is “the” God together with his Son, not separately from his Son. The Father and Son, together with their Spirit, are the God and Lord YHVH.

The Word is THE only begotten God. John 1:18 helps us understand John 1:1c.

In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with the God and the Word was the only begotten God.

Hi Mike,

I’m back :).

you said:  But I agree that God made the heaven and the earth ex nihilo (out of nothing).

I would say that God made the heaven and the earth out of water and particles in the water. That’s how I understand it anyway.

LU

Danny, please don’t leave. We need you here because of people like proclaimer that wants to pretend that Jesus is not his God along with the Father in one post and in another post he admits that, in a sense, Jesus is God of him because Jesus is his head. Proclaimer cannot accept the interdependence of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit for some reason.

LU

Carmel,

It was Jesus body that was resurrected on resurrection day, His spirit was in the hands of the Father at the time of the last breath on the cross. I believe that “today I have begotten you” refers to the Son according to the flesh, from the dead. Thus He is called the Firstborn from the dead. That was the day that the Son received the…[Read more]

In order to believe in the One true God, you must believe in the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. They are a package deal, a divine interdependency. If you want one true God, you must take all three: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.

If you deny the Holy Spirit, you cannot receive the Father or the Son.

If you deny the Father, you cannot…[Read more]

Mike,

Was Jesus begotten from the grave? If so, by whom?

Hi Mike,

The statement “today I have begotten you” is not said after Jesus’ baptism. That was said on the resurrection day. Jesus was begotten from the dead and thus firstborn from the dead. Clearly though, the Father was Jesus’ father before the resurrection day.

LU

Hi Mike,

You said:

Right.

Psalm 2:7

NET… The king says, “I will announce the Lord’s decree. He said to me: ‘You are my son! This very day I have become your father!’”

NIV…  I will proclaim the decree of the LORD: He said to me, “You are my Son; today I have become your Father.”

NLT…  The king proclaims the LORD’s decree: “The LORD said to me,…

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Mike,

You said: 2.

The former is logical, since no son exists until he is brought into existence by his father (who always exists prior to his son coming into existence). The latter would therefore be illogical.

You believe that the Eternal One was not always a father, right?

Gene,

You have been shown a clear, grammatical reason that proves your use of the Greek word “dia” is misleading and now you have chosen to continue to mislead others. You will be accountable to the Lord Jesus for that.

Btw, it is not a doctrine that tells us that dia means “by the instrumentality of” when the genitive word follows it, it’s…[Read more]

Great post Proclaimer, I agree!

LU

To all,
In your opinion, what would be the difference between a created son of God and an uncreated son of God?
This should be interesting. LU

Gene,

You told Berean this:

Berean……how many’s times do I have to tell you, the word “by” there means , for the purpose of.

Translating “dia” (Strong’s #1223) is clarified by what type of word follows it. If the word after “dia” is in the genitive case it is translated as “through” or “by the instrumentality of” as opposed to the accusative case…[Read more]

Two different Fathers:

1. the Father that has an only begotten literal son.
2. the father that has no literal son, only non-literal sons.

I believe the Son is the only begotten literal son of God. I have been saying that for 28+ years. Jesus is begotten, not created. A created son would not be a literal son.

It seems like Berean, Danny,…[Read more]

Mike says

If a living thing is born, isn’t it also a new creation that didn’t exist before it was born? Can you think of an exception?

All five of my children were born about nine months AFTER they first existed.

It is not birth that causes an offspring to exist, it’s conception. Mike has been through this Biology lesson many times now and sho…[Read more]

No Mike you are not.

Danny and Berean,

The three of us are agreeing on both the Father and Son being deity and identified as YHVH, correct?

Hi Gene,

You wrote:

To All …..something to think about,   Is begotten to you, the same as being born ?

To me it is not the Same.  Because we are begotten of God,  But not yet born, according to this.  1 John 5;18………We know that whosoever is born of God sins not , “But” , he that is “begotten ” of God keeps himself, and that wicked one touches h…

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