Mike,There you go, adding words that are not there.

Nick,Do you have a particular passage spoken by Jesus that you can ask me about?Kathi

Georg,you said:Quote Yes, a dead body does look empty, empty of life, but he/she is not with the Lord; not consciously that is.I give you some scriptures you need to look at.Ps. 104:29 “Thou hidest thy face, they are troubled, thou takest away their breath, they die, and return to their dust.”Eccl. 3:19 “For that which befalleth the sons…[Read more]

Georg,you said:Quote The heart has nothing to do with anything, except to pump blood. It may pump faster at times when we are exited, and slower when we're scared; but our decisions are made with our mind/spirit depending what information is in our brain.Do a search on 'heart' and see that the word 'heart' does not usually mean the organ that…[Read more]

Hi Georg,Doesn't this verse discount your theory that mind = spirit?1 Cor 14:14For if I pray in a tongue, my spirit prays, but my mind is unfruitful. 15What is the outcome then? I will pray with the spirit and I will pray with the mind also; I will sing with the spirit and I will sing with the mind also.Kathi

Mike,I think that 'beginning' is a good choice as a translation since it is likely the choice elsewhere in Revelations. In Revelations Jesus is the 'Beginning and the End' and so I do think that what that means is related to Rev 3:14. That would rule out Jesus as a first 'created' creature but so does the rest of the Bible, imo. He would certainly…[Read more]

Quote (Pastry @ Feb. 17 2012,12:14)Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 22 2011,16:32)Devolution,You have demonstrated that the Holy Spirit is probably not a 3rd person but you have not demonstrated that He is not the 'inner person' of the Father and Son united which is what I believe.  I don't believe that the Holy Spirit is merely the spirit of truth…[Read more]

Nick,Back to the topic. We can discuss this elsewhere.

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 16 2012,16:18)Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 17 2012,14:50)Nick,The begotten God became flesh so certainly the begotten God was in the flesh of Jesus and spoke to man as a man that was also the begotten God. The begotten God and His Father are IN each other and are inseparable no doubt. They interdependently are God to us through…[Read more]

Mike,Quote Why would we only consider one Book in the Bible? Weren't other Books also written in the Hebrew language? So why would you limit our search to only Proverbs?The book of Proverbs had the verse in question. It makes perfect sense to see how the same author uses the word as it relates to wisdom through the rest of the book and there are…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 16 2012,15:56)Hi LU, So you think it was all his WORD. God never spoke through him??Nick,Jesus spoke both for His Father as well as for Himself. All of His words reflect truth. There is no variance in their light. They both have the wisdom of God. Now the Holy Spirit brings their words to life to those with ears to hear…[Read more]

Nick,The begotten God became flesh so certainly the begotten God was in the flesh of Jesus and spoke to man as a man that was also the begotten God. The begotten God and His Father are IN each other and are inseparable no doubt. They interdependently are God to us through their Spirit. The Father is Almighty through His Son and Spirit. When you…[Read more]

Quote (cavedave @ Feb. 16 2012,08:16)I will also add that I was asked to leave the web site where these videos came from because I would not give in to the idea that Jesus was God. I simply believe Jesus is the Son of God the word of God and our saivor. No more no less pretty simple stuff. No where in scripture does it ever say God the Son and was…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 13 2012,19:26)Oh, that's right.  I forgot that “majority” means “truth of the matter”.Kathi, I'm bored with this.  We've gone as far as we can.Later sister,mikeMike,You like to aim below the belt. Maybe you forget all the scriptures that I put up in Proverbs, each in several translations, comparing how the words in q…[Read more]

Pierre,If it were my own imagination why do so many believe this and have so for centuries? How is it that I create my own scriptures when all scriptures that I quote are quotes of known translations?Sorry, you were wrong after all.What does the Bible translation say that you like regarding Prov. 8:22-24.Kathi

Marty,Do you deny that Jesus is YOUR Lord and YOUR God?Kathi

Christians are also to keep the Sabbath but it is no longer a seventh day but it is the day when believers make Jesus the Lord of their life and this day doesn't end so it is not celebrated over and over every seven days. The new creation that believer's become is no longer the old creation where the seventh day is observed. Those who have yet to…[Read more]

Mike,Here are several translations of Prov 8:22-24:Prov 8:22New International Version (©1984)”The LORD brought me forth as the first of his works, before his deeds of old;New Living Translation (©2007)”The LORD formed me from the beginning, before he created anything else.English Standard Version (©2001)“The LORD possessed me at the beginning of h…[Read more]

Marty,you said:Quote Kathi: each of these statements is not an alternate way of saying the “only begotten Son”. Each of these statements identifies him as the “Son” of God.Well then, hmmm…each of those statements is an alternate way of identifying Him as the Son of God. Do you agree to that? Quote Yes, he was a man because he was born of a…[Read more]

Romans 7:25 Thanks be to God through Jesus Christ our Lord! So then, on the one hand I myself with my mind am serving the law of God, but on the other, with my flesh the law of sin.