Nick,Do you have some scriptures that say God did not need the Son?

Quote (cavedave @ Feb. 22 2012,17:37)It may be a good idea to not take one scripture and try to make a picture out of it that it is not really painting.In the above taking these scriptures to say Jesus created all things in the sweet by and by at first looks like it may be a good idea to support the way we have been told it must have been. When in…[Read more]

Well Mike,You won't find that in scripture.

Nick,For starters:John 14:6 Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.John 5:23 He who does not honor the Son does not honor the Father, who sent him.There are so many…The Father created THROUGH the SonThe Father saves THROUGH the SonThe Father judges THROUGH the SonThe Father's…[Read more]

Right Nick.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 22 2012,11:38)Hi, Our God is immortal. But Jesus died.Nick,And that is why He had to become flesh because the flesh could die.

Hi Nick,Interdependance.

Quote (942767 @ Feb. 22 2012,08:12)Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 21 2012,15:07)Quote (942767 @ Feb. 18 2012,19:01)Hi Kathi:You asked:Who is the husband?Jesus is the husband of the church, watching over God's Word to perform it.Love in Christ,MartyHi Marty,Thanks, now let me ask you this…is the Father the husband of the church too?KathiHi Kathi:Jesus…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 21 2012,23:18)Hi LU, ” the Son can do nothing on my own initiative”jn 5.30'and I do nothing on my own initiative' jn8.28'the flesh profits nothing' jn 6.63Nick,The Son expresses the unity of Him and the Father everywhere, you take it as inability but it is meant to convey unity.Your flesh profits nothing but His flesh was…[Read more]

Marlin,Jesus is not the Father. Jesus goes to great lengths to demonstrate that the Father is someone other than Himself. The Holy Spirit is not the Christ, the Son of God is the Christ.Matt 16:Simon Peter answered, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.”God bless,Kathi

Nick,Jesus never needed to be reborn, He was never separated from God. Sin separates us from God…He had no sin.

Quote (Marlin1 @ Feb. 21 2012,23:25)Kathi,The scripture does tell us that the Son laid the foundation of the earth and that the heavens are the works of His hands, so yes, the scriptures do tell us that the Son was there in the beginning.Where does it say the SON did this?God BlessMarlinHi Marlin,Heb 1:8 But of the Son He says, “YOUR T…[Read more]

Nick,All was from the Father AND the Son.

No, Nick I am not adding opinion…it is written. The Son laid the foundation of the earth and the heavens are the works of His hands. He actively did that way back at the time of creation. Heb 1:2 n these last days has spoken to us in His Son, whom He appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the world.

Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 21 2012,18:47)Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 21 2012,16:00)So Nick,Do you think that we give back our life and it is no longer ours after we die?Lightenup.Rev.11:11.And after three days and a half THE SPIRIT IF LIFE FROM GOD ENTERED IN TO THEM,and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them.THE SPIRIT OF…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 21 2012,12:46)Hi LU, Jesus ascribed goodness to the Father.No man is born righteous or can make himself good.Even the first step, repentance, is a gift from God.Nick,Jesus by His very inherent God nature has always been righteous and He has never ceased to be righteous.If He were just a man, his righteous could not redeem…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Feb. 21 2012,09:05)Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 20 2012,15:06)Marty,But it is Jesus' goodness/righteousness that saves us and that was what the young man was asking about…what can he do to obtain eternal life. Jesus tells him that there is one good and to follow him if he wishes to be complete. So, I think that the NASB translation…[Read more]

Hi Marlin,Thanks for all the time that took. you said:Quote If you believe that Jesus was a spiritual being before He came to the earth, then you worship a little god.Why would you say that? You are a son, does that make you less human than your father?I believe God the Father begat the Son (who was always within Him before being begotten) who is…[Read more]

But Nick you have not faced the fact that the Son, not as the Messiah, but as the Son before flesh, was with the Father in the beginning and it was the Son that laid the foundation of the earth and the heavens are the work of His hands.

Quote (cavedave @ Feb. 21 2012,00:11)Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 21 2012,15:12)Cavedave,I was reading the above post of yours and was agreeing with you until you said that Jesus came in the natural and then the spiritual. I was wondering if you believe in the pre-existence of Jesus before His birth in Mary. Do you?KathiJesus was a man born of a woman…[Read more]