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Lightenup replied to the topic Biblical discussion – BD, LU, Mikeboll, ST in the forum Group Discussions 14 years, 2 months ago
Mike,you said:Quote You've called them equally “God Almighty”. If one is the head over the other, then they can't be equal.I have said that the Father is God Almighty because He is with the Son and their Spirit…in unity. His might is demonstrated through His Son's might and the power of THEIR Spirit. The Father, Son and their Spirit are in an…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Biblical discussion – BD, LU, Mikeboll, ST in the forum Group Discussions 14 years, 2 months ago
Mike,you said:Quote Could we say the four creatures are “in unity with” their God, also? Do you, as a Christian, strive to be one with (in unity with) the Father and the Son?Using the phrase “in unity with” leaves many possibilities, so I won't deny that the Son works “in unity with” his Father and God.Every true believer that gives glory to God…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Biblical discussion – BD, LU, Mikeboll, ST in the forum Group Discussions 14 years, 2 months ago
Mike,I have never disagreed that the Father has authority over the Son. You have authority over your son, do you not? Does that make you unequal? You are both equally human even though there is a difference in position. The Father and Son are both equally god natured even though there is a difference in position which comes from their relationship…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Biblical discussion – BD, LU, Mikeboll, ST in the forum Group Discussions 14 years, 2 months ago
Mike,Can you agree to this statement:Now I want you to realize that the head of every man is the only begotten God, and the head of the woman is man, and the head of the only begotten God is God the Father.
Lightenup replied to the topic Biblical discussion – BD, LU, Mikeboll, ST in the forum Group Discussions 14 years, 2 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 18 2012,19:45)Kathi,There are many points in my last post that I want you to directly address. I'm in no rush, so whenever you get the time.
As to your point, Peter was/is also a head of the church, since Jesus appointed him as the one to “feed my sheep”. So Peter is a head, Jesus is a head OVER Peter, and God is a he…[Read more]Lightenup replied to the topic Biblical discussion – BD, LU, Mikeboll, ST in the forum Group Discussions 14 years, 2 months ago
Mike,You said:Quote Could we say the four creatures are “in unity with” with their God, also? Do you, as a Christian, strive to be one with (in unity with) the Father and the Son?Using the phrase “in unity with” leaves many possibilities, so I won't deny that the Son works “in unity with” his Father and God.But there is no denying that the…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Biblical discussion – BD, LU, Mikeboll, ST in the forum Group Discussions 14 years, 2 months ago
Hi Mike and BD,So sorry that I haven't been around much lately. I've been having too much fun enjoying the outdoors
I think that the situation that you both are wrestling with is that you are comparing the creatures with the head of the creatures and not seeing that Jesus AND the Father are in the 'head of the creatures' group and Moses, the 'four…[Read more]Lightenup replied to the topic Biblical discussion – BD, LU, Mikeboll, ST in the forum Group Discussions 14 years, 2 months ago
BD,Is 2 Peter not a book you have read?2 Peter 317You therefore, beloved, knowing this beforehand, be on your guard so that you are not carried away by the error of unprincipled men and fall from your own steadfastness, 18but grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To Him be the glory, both now and to the day of…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Biblical discussion – BD, LU, Mikeboll, ST in the forum Group Discussions 14 years, 2 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 11 2012,20:41)Quote (Lightenup @ June 10 2012,21:11)I agree that the one who sits on the throne is the Lord God Almighty. Also, I agree that Him who sits on the throne is the Lord and God of the four living creatures and the 24 elders.The Son is part of a Father/Son unity with the one on the throne that is being…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Biblical discussion – BD, LU, Mikeboll, ST in the forum Group Discussions 14 years, 2 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 02 2012,09:02)Quote (Lightenup @ June 01 2012,20:04)Mike,God the Father AND God the Son are together the Lord of all heaven and earth.Mike,The begotten God purchased the church with His own blood. You know this. Mike,I agree that there is one God Almighty. The Father with the Son and their Holy Spirit. The one God Almighty…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Biblical discussion – BD, LU, Mikeboll, ST in the forum Group Discussions 14 years, 2 months ago
Bd,So it seems that since, in your opinion, YHVH is not both the Father and the Son, then you are saying that the Father is your Lord and Savior and Jesus is not your Lord and Savior. Is that correct?
Lightenup replied to the topic Biblical discussion – BD, LU, Mikeboll, ST in the forum Group Discussions 14 years, 2 months ago
Mike,All I got to do was wave at him, so you will have to make a movie with him yourself or send him a letter if you have something to tell him.

Lightenup replied to the topic Biblical discussion – BD, LU, Mikeboll, ST in the forum Group Discussions 14 years, 2 months ago
Hi Mike and BD,I will get to your posts but not for a few days. I'm going to be busy making a movie with Harrison Ford
It is called “42, The Jackie Robinson Story” to come out next April. Anything ya want me to tell him?Take care,KathiLightenup replied to the topic Biblical discussion – BD, LU, Mikeboll, ST in the forum Group Discussions 14 years, 2 months ago
Quote (Lightenup @ June 01 2012,21:09)Quote (Lightenup @ May 29 2012,18:43)Quote (bodhitharta @ May 29 2012,15:49)Quote (Lightenup @ May 30 2012,04:54)Quote (bodhitharta @ May 29 2012,01:21)There is ONLY ONE TRUE GOD according to HIS Christ Jesus, that means that even Jesus is not a TRUE GOD. There can be ONLY ONEBD,There is one Lord and that is…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Biblical discussion – BD, LU, Mikeboll, ST in the forum Group Discussions 14 years, 2 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 31 2012,18:25)Quote (bodhitharta @ May 30 2012,09:53)Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 30 2012,12:02)My understanding is this:If our ONE and ONLY God Almighty has a Son named Jesus, and Jesus DOESN'T have a Son named Jesus, then Jesus cannot possibly BE our ONE and ONLY God Almighty.Brilliant!
Thanks, Asana.I didn't really understand…[Read more]Lightenup replied to the topic Biblical discussion – BD, LU, Mikeboll, ST in the forum Group Discussions 14 years, 2 months ago
Quote (bodhitharta @ May 31 2012,23:00)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 01 2012,10:25)Quote (bodhitharta @ May 30 2012,09:53)Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 30 2012,12:02)My understanding is this:If our ONE and ONLY God Almighty has a Son named Jesus, and Jesus DOESN'T have a Son named Jesus, then Jesus cannot possibly BE our ONE and ONLY God Almighty.Brilliant!
T…[Read more]Lightenup replied to the topic Biblical discussion – BD, LU, Mikeboll, ST in the forum Group Discussions 14 years, 2 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 31 2012,18:16)Quote (Lightenup @ May 30 2012,23:13)Acts 20:28 “Be on guard for yourselves and for all the flock, among which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to shepherd the church of (the) God which He purchased with His own blood.Or……………. “the church of the God, which He purchased with the blood of His…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Biblical discussion – BD, LU, Mikeboll, ST in the forum Group Discussions 14 years, 2 months ago
Quote (Lightenup @ May 29 2012,18:43)Quote (bodhitharta @ May 29 2012,15:49)Quote (Lightenup @ May 30 2012,04:54)Quote (bodhitharta @ May 29 2012,01:21)There is ONLY ONE TRUE GOD according to HIS Christ Jesus, that means that even Jesus is not a TRUE GOD. There can be ONLY ONEBD,There is one Lord and that is Jesus. Do you think that means that the…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic God Given Revelation? The Nature of Creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 2 months ago
BD,The only other thread that you and I are having a discussion in. Go there to discuss this.
Lightenup replied to the topic Biblical discussion – BD, LU, Mikeboll, ST in the forum Group Discussions 14 years, 2 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 31 2012,18:28)Quote (Lightenup @ May 30 2012,21:03)BD,you said:Quote Jesus said about The Almighty: John 17:3And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.Notice that Jesus spoke of himself here as something seperate from “GOD” using “and” if Jesus was part of a…[Read more]
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