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Lightenup replied to the topic Delusions in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 1 month ago
Pierre,Do you ask for the purpose to seek understanding or just to attempt to destroy and belittle?
Lightenup replied to the topic Delusions in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 1 month ago
Good posts William
Welcome AndrewAD!Lightenup replied to the topic Delusions in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 1 month ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 08 2012,14:05)Quote (Lightenup @ July 08 2012,12:32)Mike,Do you remember me changing the word to 'in' instead of 'of' because I thought that would help you understand better? You may have not seen that because you have not acknowledged it.I not only saw it, but responded to it (1st post on page 19). My response was…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Delusions in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 1 month ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 08 2012,15:51)Okay Kathi,So let's adjust your statement: Jesus is a member of the unity that He is a son of and a son in.If you include the “OF” part, which you must because it is scriptural, then you're STILL saying Jesus is his own son – or at the very least, part of his own father.Or would you prefer to eliminate the…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Biblical discussion – BD, LU, Mikeboll, ST in the forum Group Discussions 14 years, 1 month ago
Mike,for you to say this shows us that you do not 'get it' still. Maybe you should reread this thread carefully.Quote But for you to say that Jesus being Lord over other lords makes him the same being as his God, who is also a Lord over other lords (including our Lord Jesus), makes no more sense than me saying that Nebuchanezzar being a King over…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Biblical discussion – BD, LU, Mikeboll, ST in the forum Group Discussions 14 years, 1 month ago
BTW, what scripture has God 'appointing' the Son as 'Lord,' also, what scripture has God 'appointing' the Son as 'the Lord of lords?' And, what scripture has God 'appointing' the Son as god/God?You keep saying that He was appointed as Lord but I don't see it in scripture. Is this a manmade doctrine of…
Lightenup replied to the topic Biblical discussion – BD, LU, Mikeboll, ST in the forum Group Discussions 14 years, 1 month ago
You seem to like to waste your time Mr. 14917 posts. How much time do you spend on HN per week, Mike?
Lightenup replied to the topic Biblical discussion – BD, LU, Mikeboll, ST in the forum Group Discussions 14 years, 1 month ago
Mike,You are certainly falling short of applying my logic. Jesus as the Lord of lords and king of kings in the NT pre-exists His flesh existence as a heavenly being. If Neb and Art didn't do that, then clearly the use of 'king of kings' is not anywhere near who Jesus is. But you know this, don't you or am I giving you too much credit?
Lightenup replied to the topic Delusions in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 1 month ago
Mike,Do you not know that the Father is IN Jesus and Jesus is IN the Father? Jesus is not only OF the Father but He is IN the Father. John 17
Lightenup replied to the topic Delusions in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 1 month ago
Here Mike,https://www.heavennet.net/cgi-bin….;st=1608th post down.
Lightenup replied to the topic Delusions in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 1 month ago
Mike,Do you remember me changing the word to 'in' instead of 'of' because I thought that would help you understand better? You may have not seen that because you have not acknowledged it. Go back in that thread and look at my response.Jesus is a member of the unity that He is a son IN.Also, if you understood that like begets like, then you can…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Delusions in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 1 month ago
Quote (t8 @ July 08 2012,08:14)Quote (Lightenup @ July 08 2012,20:16)Mike,You indicate that I believe in one person that is His own Son yet in the next sentence you indicate that I believe in two persons. I'm pretty sure that you know that I believe in two persons and one is from the other so why would you act like I was saying that one came from…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Biblical discussion – BD, LU, Mikeboll, ST in the forum Group Discussions 14 years, 1 month ago
Mike,I am sure that you need a break. You are wasting our time with those kinds of comments.
Lightenup replied to the topic Delusions in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 1 month ago
Mike,You indicate that I believe in one person that is His own Son yet in the next sentence you indicate that I believe in two persons. I'm pretty sure that you know that I believe in two persons and one is from the other so why would you act like I was saying that one came from himself? You probably need a break or something.You asked if I…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Biblical discussion – BD, LU, Mikeboll, ST in the forum Group Discussions 14 years, 1 month ago
Quote (bodhitharta @ July 07 2012,14:03)Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 07 2012,13:03)Kathi,I pray that you accept the fact that for us, there is but one God Almighty, the Father. But He has a Son, Priest, Servant, Mediator, and Anointed One that He set up as King and Lord over us. That one is also very powerful and deserves much praise and honor, b…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Biblical discussion – BD, LU, Mikeboll, ST in the forum Group Discussions 14 years, 1 month ago
It doesn't seem like ya'll know what is meant by Jesus when He says that He is the door/gate. Maybe if you read this through, you will see that Jehovah is not the pasture and that the sheep aren't going through the door to get to the Father. Think of the flock as the church and the believing Jews and the believing Gentiles forming one flock.John…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Delusions in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 1 month ago
Pierre,Whether or not the Lord of lords serves the God of gods…Jehovah is still BOTH God of gods and Lord of lords. So for you to say that one is higher than the other…so what, Jehovah is both God of gods AND Lord of lords and together they are both head over all power and all authority and have all dominion in this age and in the one to come.
Lightenup replied to the topic Delusions in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 1 month ago
Pierre,Like I said, it is a popular deception you have there. Truth is really quite simple…really!Jehovah is still both:God of godsANDLord of lordswhether or not the Lord of lords serve the God of gods, Jehovah is still both, NT and OT. Deut 10:17For the LORD your God is God of gods and Lord of lords, the great God, mighty and awesome, who shows…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Biblical discussion – BD, LU, Mikeboll, ST in the forum Group Discussions 14 years, 1 month ago
Jehovah is both:God of godsAND Lord of lordsEVEN if the Lord of lords serves the God of gods…Jehovah is both. (even in this thread
)Lightenup replied to the topic Delusions in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 1 month ago
Jehovah is still both:God of godsAND Lord of lordswhether or not the Lord of lords serve the God of gods, Mike. Jehovah is still both, even in the NT.
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