Mike,you said:Quote We were discussing 1 Cor 8:6, Kathi. That's why I said what I said. And just like 1 Cor 8:6 ruins your “two YHWH” doctrine by calling Jesus ALONE our “one YHWHs”, this Luke passage seems to teach that both the Father AND the Messiah are “the LORD YHWH” – ruining your “one is 'God' and the other is 'Lord' ” claim.Hold on…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 30 2012,19:27)Quote (Lightenup @ July 29 2012,22:22)Mike,It is most likely, according to what Josephus said, that Paul spoke in Aramaic and wrote in Aramaic,Let's not take a letter from Josephus, where he said he preferred to speak Hebrew, and apply it to the entire NT, okay?Josephus said nothing about Paul speaking or…[Read more]

Mike,you ask:Quote Then wouldn't the unity of the two always be called “Lord God”? Obviously not.Quote Why is the unity so often called by just the name of the “God” part of the unity?God would be used in the general sense there.Quote Also, Jehovah put His name on the angel in Exodus, the Israelites, Jerusalem, etc. Isaiah 43:6-7Bring my sons…[Read more]

BD,you said:Quote So during the time he hadn't been given “the name” yet, what was his name and what was the Name of the one who gave him the Name.You are saying that YHWH was a being who gave the name YHWH to another being whom we also call Jesus. Doesn't this mean that Jesus was not always named YHWH?They are both always YHWH because they have…[Read more]

Mike,Go to this link http://aramaicnt.com/articles.htmThen read this article, it talks about the missing epistles, etc. and should bring more complete understanding to what is being said in the one you posted:”Does the Peshitta stem from the Old Syriac?”

Mike,Here is more info:http://aramaicnt.com/articles.htm

Also, Mike, not only are we discussing Paul's letters but the gospels. In Luke 2, Jesus is called YHWH. See here:Luke 2:8 8But there were some shepherds in the region lodging there and they kept the nightly watch over their flocks; 9And behold, the Angel of God came to them and the glory of THE LORD JEHOVAH shone upon them and they were greatly…[Read more]

Mike,It is most likely, according to what Josephus said, that Paul spoke in Aramaic and wrote in Aramaic, then had what he had written, translated into the Greek for those who spoke in Greek. He may even had an interpreter when he spoke to the Greek speaking men and women. Paul might not have even spoken Greek, or maybe only a little. I'm going to…[Read more]

Your welcome Mike.

BD,I did not say there was a time when the only begotten God didn't have a name, I said that there may have been a time that He hadn't been given it yet.As an earthly example, again, I could have decided the names for all five of my kids before I even conceived the first. Each child was officially given the name when the birth certificate was…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ July 29 2012,01:01)Quote (Lightenup @ July 28 2012,14:48)1 Cor 8:6To us, ours is one God The Father, for all things are from him and we are in him, and The One LORD JEHOVAH Yeshua The Messiah, for all things are by him, and we are also in his hand.kathi.Jesus is lord. It was God that made him lord. Yet it doesn't really need an…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ July 29 2012,00:34)Quote (Lightenup @ July 28 2012,14:48)Are you and your wife a binity or a unity? What is the difference in your opinion or are they the same?A unity of course.Now let's look at Paul's writing.For US there is one God the Father.Now let's apply that to your figurative argument here.There is one Man the husband. In…[Read more]

Quote Quote (t8 @ July 08 2012,08:14)Quote (Lightenup @ July 08 2012,20:16)Mike,You indicate that I believe in one person that is His own Son yet in the next sentence you indicate that I believe in two persons. I'm pretty sure that you know that I believe in two persons and one is from the other so why would you act like I was saying that one came…[Read more]

Hi Mike,I know that there is an Aramaic interlinear of the whole NT through Bible.cc. I'm not sure if it is all from the same manuscript or not.

Quote (t8 @ July 29 2012,00:29)Quote (Lightenup @ July 28 2012,14:48)How many have divine deity nature as their original nature?I don't have a figure but God shares his nature or allows beings to participate in it. This never makes a person God himself, although that doesn't rule out being called theos. But THE Theos and theos are 2 different…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ July 29 2012,00:27)Quote (Lightenup @ July 28 2012,14:48)t8,you saidQuote You are applying your own understanding here.Yes, that is what you are after here, isn't it?  Yes that is right. And I want you to see that it is your own understanding and even by your own admission now.There is a difference between applying your own…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ July 29 2012,03:29)Quote (Lightenup @ July 29 2012,16:33)BD,Before Jesus came as the Christ, His name was YHWH…the Father gave Him His own name…both were YHWH. Then after YHWH, the Son, became flesh He was also called YahuShua, some spell it Yeshua, YahShua. The name YHWH is YaHuWaH or YaHuWeH. There is a 'Yah' in…[Read more]

BD,Before Jesus came as the Christ, His name was YHWH…the Father gave Him His own name…both were YHWH. Then after YHWH, the Son, became flesh He was also called YahuShua, some spell it Yeshua, YahShua. The name YHWH is YaHuWaH or YaHuWeH. There is a 'Yah' in YahuShua, the name Jesus. So, I would say that is the Father part of Christ's name…[Read more]

Mike,Here is what Gill says about your 'Dan' question:and pursued them unto Dan; the Jerusalem Targum is, to Dan of Caesarea, meaning Caesarea of Philippi, as in the times of Christ and his apostles it was called; which at first had the name of Leshem, or Lais, and was not called Dan until the times of the judges, Judges 18:29; wherefore, if the…[Read more]

Ok Mike,I will have to get to that later.