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Lightenup replied to the topic The Peshitta in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 14 years ago
Mike,Quote Until then, don't bother using the Aramaic Bible in English in your posts to me, because it will prove nothing more than when jammin uses his doctored translations that don't accurately represent what was taught in the original languages.Mike do you accept ANY Bible translation? I can't recall any that you haven't had trouble with. What…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The Peshitta in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 14 years ago
Mike,you said:Quote (Btw, the fact that some translator caps the word “lord” when in reference to Jehovah and to Jesus isn't “proof” of any sort.)When the word 'lord' is in all caps in this verse, Deut 10:17, do you believe that it is showing that it refers to YHWH by capping all the letters? Is that the way that the NIV translators let you know…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The Peshitta in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 14 years ago
Mike,He is using the Peshitta which he says was completed during the apostolic times.The Aramaic in which the Bible called “Assakhta Peshitta” is written, known as the Peshitta Text, is in the dialect of northwest Mesopotamia as it evolved and was highly perfected in Orhai, once a city-kingdom, later called Edessa by the Greeks, and now called…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Biblical discussion – BD, LU, Mikeboll, ST in the forum Group Discussions 14 years ago
BD,”Targum fragments found in the Dead Sea Scrolls indicate that use of written targumim can be dated to pre-Christian times, and eventually two of these written Targumim, Targum Onqelos on the Pentateuch and Targum Jonathan on the Prophets gained official status, and were specifically designated for use in synagogue services.”The 'Word of God' as…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Biblical discussion – BD, LU, Mikeboll, ST in the forum Group Discussions 14 years ago
Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 05 2012,14:11)Also Kathi Jesus declares that The Father is The Only “true” God wouldn't that mean God of any type? Here is the Problem Jesus claims that the God he worships he worships along with the other Jews:John 4:22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.So clearly you can…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Biblical discussion – BD, LU, Mikeboll, ST in the forum Group Discussions 14 years ago
Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 05 2012,13:57)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 05 2012,15:28)BD,In light of the Father being the only true God, Jesus is the only true Begotten God. There is no conflict there.So, with that understanding, yes, Jesus said that and no, He was not mistaken.Swhen Jesus says that The Father is greater than he is do you understand that…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Biblical discussion – BD, LU, Mikeboll, ST in the forum Group Discussions 14 years ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 05 2012,12:13)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 04 2012,17:15)Oh, ok, then explain how God created the sun to the class, Teacher Mike.I can't explain the “how” of it, Kathi, because we aren't told the “how” of it.But I can explain that since God CREATED the sun, it means God existed BEFORE the sun. Surely you can accept this fact…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Biblical discussion – BD, LU, Mikeboll, ST in the forum Group Discussions 14 years ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 05 2012,12:03)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 04 2012,17:15)Quote (mikeboll @ 64)Jesus is called a god in most Bibles, Kathi.Actually, He is called God in most Bibles, Mike. I do not see any that say 'a god' apart from the doctored NWT.What you see is that in every Greek ms, John 1:1 speaks of one who is called “THE god”, and one…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Biblical discussion – BD, LU, Mikeboll, ST in the forum Group Discussions 14 years ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 05 2012,11:48)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 04 2012,16:55)I am not stopping my life's activities because you cannot accept it without a mountain of proof.What “mountain of proof”?
So far, you have posted the words from some dude whose name and credentials I don't even know – who says that “marya” equals “the Lord Jehovah”.I…[Read more]Lightenup replied to the topic Biblical discussion – BD, LU, Mikeboll, ST in the forum Group Discussions 14 years ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 05 2012,11:30)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 04 2012,17:03)Imagine if you will, that the sun always existed in its complete developed state, the rays would have always existed then also. Get it?Imagine now that it was said the sun existed in the beginning, and at some point before the ages, the sun begot its rays.Would you STILL…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Biblical discussion – BD, LU, Mikeboll, ST in the forum Group Discussions 14 years ago
BD,Quote We don't need to imagine because the world was Dark in the beginning it didn't always have light and the sun was already created so when God said let there be light there was light, two different states. since you say Jesus was begotten that would mean he was not begotten at some point.I was making an analogy between the eternal Father…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Biblical discussion – BD, LU, Mikeboll, ST in the forum Group Discussions 14 years ago
BD,In light of the Father being the only true God, Jesus is the only true Begotten God. There is no conflict there.So, with that understanding, yes, Jesus said that and no, He was not mistaken.
Lightenup replied to the topic Biblical discussion – BD, LU, Mikeboll, ST in the forum Group Discussions 14 years ago
BD,It may seem like I am changing when I say that the Father is God and then I see that God is also a general term for the supreme authority. I also see Jesus as God but specifically the only begotten God. So, as I have said, over and over…it depends on the context. For instance, I know that 1 Cor 8:6 credits both the Father and the Son for…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The Peshitta in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 14 years ago
Mike,Thanks for the directions
The reason you only find part of the NT Interlinear is because that is as far as Paul Younan has gotten in his translating efforts. Here is a quote from him:”Indeed, this project is on-going and will take several years to complete. My purpose in creating an Interlinear version of the Peshitta New Testament is to:…[Read more]Lightenup replied to the topic Biblical discussion – BD, LU, Mikeboll, ST in the forum Group Discussions 14 years ago
Mike,Quote Jesus is called a god in most Bibles, Kathi.Actually, He is called God in most Bibles, Mike. I do not see any that say 'a god' apart from the doctored NWT.Quote BUT……………. since the scriptures were inspired by God Himself to be written by humans to teach humans, those teachings are written so that humans can understand them.So…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Biblical discussion – BD, LU, Mikeboll, ST in the forum Group Discussions 14 years ago
Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 04 2012,00:28)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 04 2012,15:14)BD,Quote I have nothing but respect for your love of God but it is for that very reason I am discussing this issue with you it is truly out of love, respect and admiration.Thank you for the compliment
I love and respect you as well and that is why I am spending time…[Read more]Lightenup replied to the topic Biblical discussion – BD, LU, Mikeboll, ST in the forum Group Discussions 14 years ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 04 2012,12:38)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 03 2012,12:41)Number 1…don't call me Jammin' JrThen don't post doctored translations like he does.
Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 03 2012,12:41)Number 2…Can there be any degree of proof for you that shows ANY translation as legit?Realize that not only is Jesus called YHWH in the Aramaic…[Read more]Lightenup replied to the topic Biblical discussion – BD, LU, Mikeboll, ST in the forum Group Discussions 14 years ago
Thanks Mike,Another plug for the unity of God…the Father did not make one thing in heaven and on earth apart from the Son

Lightenup replied to the topic Comics, cartoons, jokes and funny stories in the forum Chatroom 14 years ago
A man was sitting on the edge of the bed, observing his wife, looking at herself in the mirror. Since her birthday was not far off he asked what she'd like to have for her Birthday.”I'd like to be six again”, she replied, still looking in the mirror.On the morning of her Birthday, he arose early, made her a nice big bowl of Lucky Charms, and then…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Biblical discussion – BD, LU, Mikeboll, ST in the forum Group Discussions 14 years ago
Here, BD, a response to your Peshitta post:This article gives a great deal of evidence for an Aramaic written original NT.This resource is very interesting. It is in a PDF form and I can't copy and paste from it. You can find it by going to this google search link and clicking on the fourth option “Was the New Testament Really Written in Greek.” ht…[Read more]
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