From the speaker's notes on the first video, the payoff of understanding the divine plurality of YHWH is:Jewish EvangelismApologetic DiscussionBiblical ContinuityInterpretive ClarityContextualized TheologyThe topics covered in the first video are:1. Understanding Israel's Monotheism2. Judaism's Two Powers in Heaven Doctrine (OT)3. Jewish &…[Read more]

Pierre, t8, Mike,To understand the first century Jew and how they saw YHWH as two powers watch this fourth video from here:http://www.gracebellingham.org/index.p….emid=41Pierre, please watch that video and then I will pin point what you asked for. The video will help you understand what I will show you. Thanks!

Mike,Quote Kathi, please, for the love of God, would you educate your less intelligent friend on this matter?Why are you having such a hissy fit about this Mike? If someone is an only begotten at the Father's side, and monogenes was written in the masculine sense, a son would be a natural implication. It is written in the masculine, and…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 28 2012,14:48)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 28 2012,13:05)Mike,Well, close but more like this:Who, being in very nature God… (someone who has the nature of God and should be treated as God………….)And who or what do you mean by your two uses of the word “God” in your parenthesis?God nature is the nature of one who is…[Read more]

Bo,Is that the best you can do…”it just doesn't hold up?” That is no type of rebuttal. Do you not believe in the 'two powers of YHWH?'Please go here and watch these four videos to see the second power of YHWH (watch the 4th video first to particularly see the 'two powers of YHWH):http://www.gracebellingham.org/index.p….emid=41

Mike,Quote Jesus is showing his humility here, and teaching us that he can do NOTHING by himself.  He is teaching us that the things he does are NOT UP TO HIM, but that he “puppets” his God and our God to make sure he's doing things the right way that pleases his God and our God.Jesus is letting us all know, without mincing words, that he is a…[Read more]

Mike,You forgot this verse…how many theos on the throne that the Father sits on after the Son has overcome?Rev 3:21To him who overcomes, I will give the right to sit with me on my throne, just as I overcame and sat down with my Father on his throne.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 28 2012,20:50)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 27 2012,23:39)If the Father is the only true God, as you claim, the Son is the only true ____.Please fill in the blank, thanks!“Son, Servant, Messiah, Prophet, and Lamb OF God”.Thanks Mike,Do you think that 'Lord' should be on that list?Also, you listed that Jesus is the one true son.…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Oct. 28 2012,22:38)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 28 2012,20:30)Yet you believe that Jesus was not eternal but had a beginning to His existence. When was that, t8?Approximately 1,009,876,690,545,443.987987987 light years before creation. NOTE: I might be out by a .00001 of a nanosecond.So, basically you have no idea Do you believe that the…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Oct. 28 2012,17:07)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 29 2012,07:53)“Is that a deal?” Are you joking? Are you really needing to 'make a deal' before you will answer my questions?Yes.Why?

Hi Bo,When we see YHWH speaking as one, it is as YHWH Echad (the eternal unity).

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 27 2012,19:01)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 20 2012,21:05)Mike,The first 'God' is a word that is in contrast to 'servant.'God would mean 'a type of nature that would be served as God.'So then like this?6 Who, being in very nature someone that should be served as God,   did not consider equality with God (the Father) something…[Read more]

Quote (carmel @ Oct. 27 2012,14:19)Quote ALL THAT MY FATHER HAS ARE MINE!!!   Lightenup,I do my best to be brief:Genesis 3:17…………..cursed is the earth in thy work;………………. As you can read, although the earth, was perfect, through Adam’s labour, through his evil contaminated energy, obvious since Satan’s spirit was in his soul…[Read more]

Pierre,You are not still a project manager if you are retired from being a project manager. You are still and always have been a son of your father though, before you were a project manager, while you were a project manager and even now that you are retired from being a project manager. Being the Son of God was not a 'job' He could possibly retire…[Read more]

Bo,Did you know that 'echad' can mean a unity of more than one member? The word is used here for two persons becoming one flesh, many people with one voice, and many people becoming one people for example:Genesis 2:24 For this reason a man shall leave his father and his mother, and be joined to his wife; and they shall become one flesh. 25And…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 27 2012,23:57)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 26 2012,23:50)t8,Quote “For us there is one God the Father.”For you there are at least 2 gods, God the Father, and God the Son.I don't have two God the Fathers, I just have one God the Father also…who happens to be with one God the Son.Mike,Jesus can do EVERYTHING He sees the Almighty…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 27 2012,23:57)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 26 2012,23:50)t8,Quote “For us there is one God the Father.”For you there are at least 2 gods, God the Father, and God the Son.I don't have two God the Fathers, I just have one God the Father also…who happens to be with one God the Son.Mike,Jesus can do EVERYTHING He sees the Almighty…[Read more]

Pierre,Do you believe that the Lamb is not also the Son of God?

Quote (t8 @ Oct. 28 2012,00:55)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 28 2012,19:39)I have a question for the skeptics who believe that Jesus was created, t8, Mike and all. I don't believe he was created. Creation is defined as all that was made by God through Christs/Word.Jesus is special in that he is the first born of all creation. Then all things that were…[Read more]

Mike,The Father and the Son are both the 'First and the Last.'Isaiah 44:6Thus said Jehovah, king of Israel, And his Redeemer, Jehovah of Hosts: 'I am the first, and I the last, And besides Me there is no God.Rev 22:12“Behold, I am coming quickly, and My reward is with Me, to render to every man according to what he has done. 13“I am the Alpha and…[Read more]