t8,If Adam had a son named Adam also, then there would be two identified as Adam who both had the qualities of adam, correct?

I would never say 'YHWH' our Gods is one substance' in regards to the shema.YHWH our Elohim is YHWH Echad, the eternal unity. The emphasis is on being eternal and being a unity, not on a substance.Furthermore, why are you taking my 'English' words and 'translating' them? They are already in English. You are trying to paraphrase them and you are…[Read more]

t8,I do not believe that YHWH is defined as a substance or essence. It seems to be more about an eternal existence.

t8,I would not say one YHWH 'substancce' or much of the other stuff you said. The Son was begotten at one point in time and before that, He was within the Father. He is not begotten over and over if that is what you are implying.The Father, Son, nd Spirit are one YHWH Echad, one eternal unity.

Quote (t8 @ Nov. 01 2012,05:08)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 02 2012,00:02)T8,Why can't you see that I believe in one YHWH Echad that is one God, the Father and one Lord, Jesus Christ together with their united Spirit. See my signature. If you are going to 'laugh' about what I believe, at least write it in a way that is complete. Why don't you just copy…[Read more]

t8, the scripture doesn't say Jesus became a son that day, it just says He was begotten/brought forth that day. Were your sons you 'son' before they were born/begotten? Weren't they sons already for months before they were actually born?

The word 'son' is related to that verse. 'Thou art my Son, today I have begotten you.” This is correct.

T8,Why can't you see that I believe in one YHWH Echad that is one God, the Father and one Lord, Jesus Christ together with their united Spirit. See my signature. If you are going to 'laugh' about what I believe, at least write it in a way that is complete. Why don't you just copy this and save it somewhere if you think you have to write about it…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Nov. 01 2012,03:34)Does today mean eternity?”Today I have become your father.”t8,Technically the verse in Hebrews and Psalms that you refer to does not have the word 'Father' in it. The correct translation is “Today I have begotten you.” A dad is already a father before the child is brought forth if the child is within. This is the…[Read more]

Quote 1 Corinthians 15:24Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.The kingdom that is delivered up is the kingdom of this dark world, to God the Father by the Lord Jesus. Jesus reigns on earth for 1000 years and after the millenium,…[Read more]

Bo,Quote Here is the problem with what you are saying you will not explain why Jesus calls The Father “THE ONLY TRUE GOD”Yes, I did explain why Jesus calls the Father 'the only true God.' I said this in my last post and have said this several times:”The 'only true God' is the Father, according to Jesus BUT the one Lord/Lord of lords is Jesus and…[Read more]

Again, from the notes from the first video 9 (pg. 11):Monotheism Test:*Common Hebrew terms for God:-elohim (ca.2700)-el (238)-YHWH (ca. 6800)-eloah (57)*The term elohim is used to describe:-The God of Israel-The gods of the nations (1 kg 11:33)-The gods of YHWH's council (Psa 82:1)-Demons (Deut 32:17) -(=gods of the nations; Deut 32:8-9;…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 30 2012,13:30)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 28 2012,23:29)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 28 2012,14:48)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 28 2012,13:05)Mike,Well, close but more like this:Who, being in very nature God… (someone who has the nature of God and should be treated as God………….)And who or what do you mean by your two uses of…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 30 2012,13:18)Hebrews 11:17 NKJV © By faith Abraham, when he was tested, offered up Isaac, and he who had received the promises offered up his only begotten son,Kathi,Do you see that the word “son” is in italics in the KJV, NKJV, and NASB?  That means the translators are ADDING the word “son” to the sentence because we A…[Read more]

Hi Bo,I understand what you are saying but I can use the same verses to show YHWH is a unity and back it up with the NT and all those verses that were in that video. Look at Isaiah 43:10 with the understanding that the LORD (YHWH) is the God of gods (the Father) and the Lord of lords (the Son):Isaiah 43:10Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD , and…[Read more]

Hi Bo,you said:Quote I see from the video why you believe the way you do,…That is great that you watched the video, I really appreciate that. It helps you see that there are scriptural reasons for what I believe and that I am not alone in this. It also helps you see that a common understanding of the Jew, regarding monotheism, allowed for two…[Read more]

t8,you said:Quote You never refer to a group of beings, 2+ as HIM.I can prove you wrong so easily it isn't even funny. Watch and learn Psalms 149:2Let Israel be glad in his Maker; Let the sons of Zion rejoice in their King.Israel is a name of one man (Jacob)Israel is also a name of a unity of the sons of Zion/Jacob (Israel).In the above verse…[Read more]

t8,You have a couple of questions that you have not answered. Keep in mind that this is the hot seat and if you avoid questions you get a tile unless you are above your own rules Here are the questions you haven't answered that I am asking you to answer:Quote Now, please clarify if you believe that each mention of the word YHWH in the Gen 19…[Read more]

Bo, At least watch the 4th video, please. YHWH is not only the only true God but also the only true Lord and Jesus is that Lord. YHWH is two powers. The 4th video makes this clear. Please just watch that one…it is based on scripture in the OT and the NT and shows what the first century Jews were conscious of…two powers of YHWH.

The first topic of the first video is (from the notes of the speaker):1. Understanding Israel's MonotheismThe problems to address are as follows:* Many Jews see belief in Jesus as God alongside the God of Israel as a violation of monotheism.* Many scholars believe all or most Israelites (even the biblical writers) were polytheists.* Other…[Read more]