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    Mike,Quote THEN, at the next LOWER position is man, who is under both our ONE and ONLY Almighty God AND ALSO UNDER the one our God appointed as our Lord.THEN comes woman, at an even LOWER level.In a husband/wife relationship the husband is the head of the wife but yet they are one and yet they are equal.Do you disagree with this statement?In the…[Read more]

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    Mike,The YHWH Echad, the eternal unity, is not dependent on roles, or titles, but it is dependent on eternal existence. The Shema doesn't say eternal God of gods or eternal Lord of lords but it does indicate two powers who are eternal, one as the God of gods and one as the Lord of lords and at the time the Shema was first introduced, the Father…[Read more]

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    Mike,I think that you are thinking about 'gennao,' Strong's #1080 which is translated as 'generate' in 2 Tim 2:23World English BibleBut refuse foolish and ignorant questionings, knowing that they generate strife.Strong's #1096 is not translated as 'generate' so therefore, I am not going to either.The English dictionary is not making a distinction…[Read more]

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    Well Mike,He was eternally YHWH the Son before creation. His YHWH status did not depend on being Lord over something but instead it depended on being eternal.

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    Pierre,Is there a 'witch heaven?' ???

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    Bo, Do you believe that the whippings and scourging was removed from Him too?They are interdependently sovereign. The Father creates through the Son, redeems mankind through the Son, gives eternal life through the Son, judges all men through the Son, etc. Their interdependence is not a weakness but the Almighty strength and perfection.Quote So why…[Read more]

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    Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 01 2012,07:06)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 29 2012,21:50)t8,You have a couple of questions that you have not answered. Keep in mind that this is the hot seat and if you avoid questions you get a tile unless you are above your own rules ??? Here are the questions you haven't answered that I am asking you to answer:Quote Now, please…[Read more]

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    Bo,Prove what the 'cup' was…was it being a sacrifice or was it being tortured. I don't believe that He was asking to not be the sacrifice but was asking to not be tortured. He could have ascended right there in the garden if He wanted to. It was His choice to stay and die. He chose to die before He came as man, that is why He came as a man. He…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 03 2012,16:57)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 01 2012,22:16)Paul is not identifying the Father as the one YHWH or the one God in the fullest sense of the word.Hmmmm………………..  ???How do you know?  From the other things Paul says about our “one God, the Father”, it seems to me that he considers Him to be “God in the f…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 03 2012,16:58)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 01 2012,22:20)t8,It is like you are almost getting it but then you don't. It really is simple and most Christians agree that the Father and Son are both YHWH. I don't know why you think I am the only one.How many organized denominations teach about our TWO Almighty Gods, Kathi?There is…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 03 2012,19:31)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 01 2012,22:39)You, t8 believes that YHWH is ONLY the God of gods and not also the Lord of lords. I believe that YHWH is both the God of gods and the Lord of lords.Matthew 11:25At that time Jesus said, “I praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these t…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 03 2012,16:47)Quote (t8 @ Nov. 01 2012,22:10)Here is what you are implicating:2) That Jesus was made both Lord and Christ, and that he has always been God too.She claims that Jesus was MADE Lord – even though he HAS ALREADY BEEN Lord from eternity.Quote (t8 @ Nov. 01 2012,22:10)You are drunk on your own doctrine and cannot…[Read more]

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    Quote (t8 @ Nov. 02 2012,21:13)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 03 2012,03:50)Jesus is not Lord over the Father, t8, He is Lord over the created lords.Why are you telling me this?Because you said this and implied that I was saying that Jesus was the Lord of the Father. I am not saying that.Quote To anyone who can read scripture and reason, that person…[Read more]

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    Bo,Quote So what you are saying is the sacrificing of a son is an abomination and foreign to God, right? I agree.The sacrificing that was happening in those scriptures was not a mutual desire between the children being sacrificed and the parents who are sacrificing them from what I can tell and therefore it was murder by the parents. If a person…[Read more]

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    Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 03 2012,16:08)KathiI believe the word SCROLL (S) IS USED BECAUSE THEY WERE ROLLED UP ,RIGHT ???Pierre,Scroll or book form it is to biblio.Either way, it is 'biblio' in the Greek and God's word.

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 03 2012,13:49)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 03 2012,11:42)Mike, biblos is the Greek word for 'book' and the scriptures are referred to as 'the book.' Biblos is where we get the word  'Bible.'In which scripture are the scriptures referred to as “The Book”?Mike,For instance:John 20:30Therefore many other signs Jesus also…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 03 2012,12:26)Kathi,Are you going to answer these questions?1.  Does the Greek word “monogenes”, IN AND OF ITSELF, mean “only son”?  YES or NO?2.  Do the Greek words “monogenes theos”, IN AND OF THEMSELVES, mean “God the only Son”?  YES or NO?3.  Kathi, IF Paul was indeed talking about Jesus existing in the form of Jeho…[Read more]

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    Bo,What is better, to be all loving or all knowing. What if not knowing something is due to a loving reason. Maybe it is for the sake of love that the Father only knows the day and the hour to spare the Son of having to make that call. We don't know why the Son does not know the day or the hour of His return but if love is greater than knowledge,…[Read more]

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    Mike,The 'begotten' part of only begotten is from a certain root word and is often confused with another root word. You may be looking at the wrong root word. I think you have to look into the correct Greek root word and an English dictionary is not going to be specific enough. What Strong's # is the root word for begotten that you are looking…[Read more]

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    He was referring to the YHWH Echad which He is a part of with the Father.

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