Quote (t8 @ Nov. 07 2012,02:03)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 07 2012,19:37)Definition of PROTOTYPE1: an original model on which something is patterned : archetypeExactly. The first. The original. All the others are based on it.But, t8, how can the reproduction be the prototype if the original is the prototype? Or how can Jesus be the prototype son if He…[Read more]

Quote Btw, where are men called 'theos?'Where are the judges called 'theos?' I don't see it in your wiki link or in the Bible.

Bo, the Bible teaches that Jesus was pierced and crucified and resurrected from the dead. Do you agree that this is what the Bible teaches? Yes or no

Quote (t8 @ Nov. 08 2012,03:27)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 08 2012,02:10)So, now that you admit that there are two who are called 'the theos' sit on the Father's throne, let's move on to creation.Sorry Kathi. But because you are not specifying the usage of theos, your conclusion is not correct.I believe that the Father is the THEOS.All the others…[Read more]

Quote even if you translate it as “begotten theos” then it is still not unequivocally God, but a being who was born from God and is qualitatively theos.The only begotten theos is not equivocally the unbegotten theos but is equivocally the begotten theos and they are Echad, an eternal unity. You have never proven that the begotten theos wasn't…[Read more]

Quote See how the ONLY God is invisible. This contradicts your Binity and also the Trinity, because Jesus is a visible being and God is not.Has it occurred to you that the Father is only God and the Son is more than God and not only God. The Son is also man. Stop using the word 'binity' for what I claim. I teach an eternal unity. Also, in John…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 07 2012,21:43)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 06 2012,23:56)I already answered your questions I am done with the topic as I stated before.     Of course you are.  Just like you walked away from my questions about Exodus 7:17!       Btw, I believe you have told a falsehood here, because you DIDN'T answer even ONE of the seven…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 03 2012,22:25)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 03 2012,12:26)Kathi,Are you going to answer these questions?1.  Does the Greek word “monogenes”, IN AND OF ITSELF, mean “only son”?  YES or NO?2.  Do the Greek words “monogenes theos”, IN AND OF THEMSELVES, mean “God the only Son”?  YES or NO?3.  Kathi, IF Paul was indeed talking abou…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 07 2012,21:54)Quote (carmel @ Nov. 07 2012,00:14)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 07 2012,13:36)Who does our one and only God Almighty consist of? Mike,ONLY YOU CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION…………Charles, I have a question for you, Kathi, and jammin:Do you realize that, according to scripture, you, me, and Jesus ALL have the SAME…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 07 2012,07:16)t8,Can kurios be a placeholder for YHWH in the Greek?What do you say, t8…yes or no to the 'bumped' question?

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 07 2012,21:20)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 06 2012,23:27)Mike,And just when did God make Him Lord?Before all ages, according to Jude 1:25.  At least that is one way we could interpret that verse.I guess my official answer is “I don't know, Kathi.”  But ask me what I DO know……………….I know that Jehovah MADE Jesus L…[Read more]

That is amusing that in those last two posts t8 'good points' Mike but then totally disagrees with what he posted, as seen in his last statement. Unless Mike was saying that himself, t8 and Jesus have the same God. I can't even find the original quote. Where was the original quote, Mike?However, Mike and t8 do not have the same God because t8's…[Read more]

t8,Can kurios be a placeholder for YHWH in the Greek?

Bo, is referring the Messiah with this Isaiah passage a secret or strange doctrine? Isn't this a very popular understanding?

So, now that you admit that there are two who are called 'the theos' sit on the Father's throne, let's move on to creation.How many beings that are called theos were involved in creating everything in heaven and earth?

Quote (t8 @ Nov. 07 2012,02:03)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 07 2012,19:37)Definition of PROTOTYPE1: an original model on which something is patterned : archetypeExactly. The first. The original. All the others are based on it.“All others” hmmm. There is only one begotten God, t8.John 1:18No one has seen God at any time; the only begotten God who is in…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 06 2012,18:12)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 04 2012,16:16)In a husband/wife relationship the husband is the head of the wife but yet they are one and yet they are equal.Do you disagree with this statement?Kathi, ALL beings are equal in some ways.  This is not a good analogy to support your point.Humans and God are equal in that…[Read more]

t8,Believe what you want.For me there is the YHWH Echad, the eternal unity…one God the Father and one Lord Jesus Christ.

Pierre,I already answered you. He is not a creation, He is the one, together with the Father, that created creation.

I already answered your questions I am done with the topic as I stated before.