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    Lightenup replied to the topic We believe… in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years ago

    Hi Adam,

    Thanks for your reply. How do historians know that there is no afterlife?

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    Lightenup replied to the topic We believe… in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years ago

    @gadam123

    Hi Adam I asked this several days ago and I don’t believe that you addressed it, please answer, thanks.

    Do you believe that if you die today that there will be an afterlife for you or do you just stop existing? I’m curious.

    Blessings, LU

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    Lightenup replied to the topic The Yahweh Unity in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years ago

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    Hi Danny,

    Thank you and thank you for your question.

    Regarding your questions:

    As I stated in the OP:

    Sometimes the name Yahweh is representing the Father.

    Sometimes the name is representing the Son.

    Sometimes the name Yahweh is representing the unity of the Father and the Son and has single first person pronouns and sometimes…

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    Lightenup replied to the topic The Yahweh Unity in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years ago

    Mike, I’m going to have my son over for dinner soon and be tied up till later tonight.

    For the sake of this thread, if you are going to be able to understand my view at all, I ask you to put aside your understanding that Yahweh as the God of gods and Lord of lords is only one person, the Father.

    I’m not asking you to believe my view but to be…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic The Yahweh Unity in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years ago

    They are two different persons who do not act as two different gods but act as one god together.

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    Lightenup replied to the topic The Yahweh Unity in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years ago

    Let’s try this…

    Let’s assume that the God of gods is one person and the Lord of lords is another (as I understand it) and this following statement is true:

    Yahweh is the God of gods and the Lord of lords.

    If the previous statement is true, then this following statement is not true:

    Yahweh is the God of gods but not the Lord of lords.

     

     

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    Lightenup replied to the topic The Yahweh Unity in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years ago

    I don’t think they are “two individual gods” as if they could be divided as one is god of this and the other is god of that. In the OT, they were the God of Israel together, (not separately or independently) each is his specific role with the Son always under the authority of the Father as a perfect son would be not because he is a lesser being.

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    Lightenup replied to the topic The Yahweh Unity in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years ago

    yes

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    Lightenup replied to the topic The Yahweh Unity in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years ago

    Hi Mike,

    Where did I say that a Yahweh Unity is “a singular living being” comprised of multiple persons?

    I understand Jeremiah 31:10 to be Israel as the singular masculine pronoun “him” in the passage.

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    Lightenup replied to the topic The Yahweh Unity in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years ago

    Here is one of several:

    Jeremiah 31:10 Hear the word of the LORD, O ye nations, and declare it in the isles afar off, and say, He that scattered Israel will gather him, and keep him, as a shepherd doth his flock.

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    Lightenup replied to the topic The Yahweh Unity in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years ago

    Mike, I can’t think of a pair of persons that are a unity and are male in scripture so I doubt that I could give you that. If I think of a pair of persons that are also a unity of some sort other than a man and wife, I will let you know. Perhaps there is a singular personal pronoun used with man and wife. I could give you a scriptural example of a…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic We believe… in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years ago

    Mike, I went ahead and made a dedicated thread for that just now since I said that I would discuss it after college was over. You can post there.

     

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    Yahweh is the God of gods and the Lord of lords, two persons united in one spirit as the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, as I understand it.

    Sometimes the name Yahweh is representing the Father.

    Sometimes the name is representing the Son.

    Sometimes the name Yahweh is representing the unity of the Father and the Son and has single first person…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic We believe… in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years ago

    Gene is Jesus called the only begotten son of God in the Bible?

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    Lightenup replied to the topic We believe… in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years ago

    Hi Adam,

    Thanks for your reply. Do you believe that if you die today that there will be an afterlife for you or do you just stop existing? I’m curious.

    Blessings, LU

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    Proclaimer, I get the impression that your agreement ends with statement #1.

    Proclaimer, do you go so far as to denying part or all of this statement #2, if so, what specifically do you agree with or deny:

    We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ, the only Son of God, eternally begotten of the Father, God from God, Light from Light,

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    @gadam

    You said in another thread ( I brought it over to this thread because it fit a little better):

    Hi Sis Kathi, Thanks for your concern for me. I am neither Atheist nor Agnostic but have become a skeptic and rationalist. I still attend Church and maintain my spiritual life with my family.

    I take it that you deny all the statements in the OP,…[Read more]

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    Hi Adam,

    Yes, I realize that you lost all those beliefs. I was wondering if you have replaced your beliefs in something else that gives you hope. Are you an atheist or agnostic?

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    Good reminder, Berean, thanks!

    Be blessed, LU

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    Hi Adam,

    Wonderful answer and verses to support your answer.

    You said:

    Yes sis Kathi the NT writers certainly gave much importance to Jesus the First Century Jew. As per these writers this Jesus was involved in God’s creation and the following are the few such verses;

    John 1:1-4, 10

    1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God,…

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