Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 08 2012,22:45)kATHIQuote 1)God needs to use satan to blind the minds of people.  Yes or No2)God can blind the minds of people Himself. Yes or No3)God desires men to come to belief in Him through their intellect more so than their faith. Yes or No4)God desires men to come to belief in Him through faith.  Yes or Noyour q…[Read more]

Mike,No, Moses was not the god of Aaron. Moses was his brother. Aaron was not his prophet, he was God's prophet.Quote 1. You'll have to ask Thomas that question.Why, does his answer screw up your doctrine?Quote 2. No, Jesus is not the god of me. Jehovah is the God of me, and Jesus is the one Jehovah made the Lord of me.So who is He god of?Quote…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 08 2012,15:11)Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 07 2012,23:20)I have proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that the verse is about the name that was given Him, not about the people. Remember the pronoun 'which' is singular and neuter the same as 'name'…unlike the 'them' which is plural and masculine.Kathi,I am up to Leviticus 24 in…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 08 2012,22:42)Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 08 2012,21:33)So God did not create anything directly, is that what you are saying? Nope.Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 08 2012,21:33)So, why again is He a little 'g' God to you if He does big God things?What “big God things”?  Name a thing that Jesus himself initiated.Quote (Lightenup @…[Read more]

Thanks for your answers, Pierre. They are not all 'of God' but it is ok to be wrong if you learn from your error. At least you tried.

Mike,Thanks for your answers.you said:Quote I know that God, ALONE and BY HIMSELF, created all things THROUGH His holy servant Jesus Christ.So God did not create anything directly, is that what you are saying?Also, by your answers, you admit that Jesus is a god that is given praise, honor, glory and dominion for ever and ever with the Father and…[Read more]

Bo, Abraham and Noah obeyed and believed in YHWH and since YHWH is both the Father and the Son, they did depend on Jesus, YHWH the Son, for their salvation and they depended on the Father also for their salvation. They knew Him as YHWH. Abraham even has a face to face discussion with Him in Gen 18.

Pierre,I do not know what you are talking about. I do not know how you would answer those questions. Please answer them with a yes or no and tell me which question you are saying that about.

t8, do you think what I have suggested to Pierre in the above post will work for what he wants as far as a place where he can discuss with only certain people?

Well Pierre, make a thread that is a closed discussion between you and whom you consider 'mature believers' and test it on one topic to see if you like it and accomplish with it what you want. If it works, then make as many others in the same 'closed' manner for other topics that you want to talk about. There doesn't have to be a whole new board…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 08 2012,21:07)Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 09 2012,06:46)t8,Please answer this:God needs to use satan to blind the minds of people.  Yes or NoGod can blind the minds of people Himself. Yes or NoGod desires men to come to belief in Him through their intellect more so than their faith. Yes or NoGod desires men to come to belief…[Read more]

Pierre,Do you believe in the internet? Do you understand it? Is it useful to you?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8x_KW90tx8Powerful music video

Good post jammin!

Pierre,There isn't a limit to the threads you can make here just for you and your cohorts. Have at it. I predict a short life to them or that they become a second grade gossip column about other members here. Why don't you test it out.

Mike,The one theos that is the mediator is a mediator between us and the one theos that is the Father.Now answer my question:Mike, is this mediator one of the two 'the theos' that was involved in creation, needed to be believed in for eternal salvation of all mankind, mentioned in our prayers, given praise, honor, glory and dominion for ever and…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Dec. 08 2012,16:01)LU, let's be clear about something.The reason you and KJ have the view that YHWH is the God of this wicked world is because if it was Satan as most already know, you both would then have to concede to the true meaning of the word 'theos' and thus it would threaten your whole case about Jesus being the Most High…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 08 2012,15:42)Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 07 2012,23:09)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 07 2012,23:49)Jesus himself told us that his God is also our God, and Jesus didn't worship any “echad unity” thing, I see no reason for me to worship an “echad unity” thing.You and Jesus do not have the same God, Mike.Sure we do. Malachi 2:10Have…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Dec. 08 2012,15:57)Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 09 2012,03:15)t8,you said:Quote And he is the prototype son and are we not sons of God.He, Jesus, is eternal, we are not. Here lies the difference between being the only begotten/not created son who is God by nature and attributes and being the created son who is not God by nature and…[Read more]

t8,Please answer this:God needs to use satan to blind the minds of people. Yes or NoGod can blind the minds of people Himself. Yes or NoGod desires men to come to belief in Him through their intellect more so than their faith. Yes or NoGod desires men to come to belief in Him through faith. Yes or No