Can God offer eternal salvation apart from the Son?

You say He is Lord.I say He is LORD!LORD as in Jehovah, the Son.You can't say that Jesus is LORD as in Jehovah, the Son.

No, I believe that Psalm 86:8 refers to the one Corporate God which is the YHWH Echad, the eternal God unity.

Yes, both the Father and the Son are sovereign.Can you answer the question?

Exactly!

I didn't think you could.

Quote A child can understand those verseshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yz1gJ1mXyM

I believe IN the Son…not just about Him. I can say, “Yeshua is the LORD Jehovah.” How about you?1 Cor 12:3 Because I inform you of this: there is no man who speaks by The Spirit of God and says, “Yeshua is damned”, neither can a man say, “Yeshua is THE LORD JEHOVAH”, except by The Spirit of Holiness.

To go with the above to prove the crackpot doctrine that Jesus is not Jehovah/YHWH is WRONG!Isaiah 44:6 “This is what the LORD says–Israel's King and Redeemer, the LORD Almighty: I am the first and I am the last; apart from me there is no God.Israel's King and RedeemerMatt 2:2 “Where is the newborn king of the Jews? We saw his star as it rose,…[Read more]

Jesus said, “I and the Father are one.”Would Jesus lie? No. I agree with Jesus.

John 316“For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son,f that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. 17For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. 18Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already b…[Read more]

Deut 32:39 “‘See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god beside me; I kill and I make alive; I wound and I heal; and there is none that can deliver out of my hand.Hmmmm…there is no god beside meJohn 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.I kill and I make aliveJohn 11:25 Jesus said to her, “I…[Read more]

NO, satan is not the God of this world. God YHWH loves this world and has no need to give it to another. God YHWH never gives another god this world.

Quote (t8 @ Dec. 10 2012,21:55)Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 11 2012,11:22)Another crackpot doctrine newly surfaced:”Even Believers in Christ can be worshiped too.”Please uncrackpot that one LU.Revelation 3:9Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship…[Read more]

If people proskuneo Jesus and the Father as the theos, that is because together they are one corporate theos and called YHWH. If they were not, then that would be an abomination.2 Kings 17:35 When the LORD (YHWH) made a covenant with the Israelites, he commanded them: “Do not worship any other gods or bow down to them, serve them or sacrifice to them.

So if God blinds someone through the agency of someone or something, then God is the one ultimately doing the blinding. See

Another crackpot doctrine newly surfaced:”Even Believers in Christ can be worshiped too.”

Quote Who for example who doesn't believe that Jesus was not worshiped.Do you mean to say:Who for example doesn't believe that Jesus was worshiped?If so, the answer is Mike for one.The second 'the theos' is worshiped. I rest my case!

Good post Charles!

Bo,I believe that the Father, who is greater in position than any, is mightier with His Son rather than apart from His Son. So, that is why I say, together they form the Almighty God in the corporate sense.Do you agree with this statement:the Father, who is greater in position than any, is mightier with His Son rather than apart from His Son.