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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 13 2012,19:24)Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 13 2012,13:12)Mike,I don't believe that the Trinitarian's claim that being 'one' with God means that Jesus is a second person in the one being of God Almighty. They believe in a unity of three eternal persons in an almighty Godhead. I believe in two persons and their spirit in an…[Read more]

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    Yes, Kerwin, me too! Also pray for truth to reign here on HN and that the soldiers of Christ would prepare for battle, working together against the enemy instead of fighting each other.

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 12 2012,18:11)Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 12 2012,09:54)Quote But for us sane people, it means “one in purpose”.The oneness that Jesus speaks of gets Him accused of blasphemy and eventually crucified because He is making Himself out to be God.John 10 30“I and the Father are one.” 31The Jews picked up stones again to stone Him…[Read more]

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    Mike,I don't believe that the Trinitarian's claim that being 'one' with God means that Jesus is a second person in the one being of God Almighty. They believe in a unity of three eternal persons in an almighty Godhead. I believe in two persons and their spirit in an eternal God unity.You should know that I don't believe that Jesus is the…

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 5 months ago

    Then you need with ask with all your heart and only then will He answer you.

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    Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 09 2012,08:27)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 09 2012,04:30)Hi KathiI think that your natural concept of a Mother bringing birth to a son plays way to much in your understanding of the relationship of the Father and Jesus.To say that God the Father literally brought birth to a spiritual son in procreation in itself is…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 5 months ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 12 2012,17:39)Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 12 2012,09:26)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 11 2012,18:35)It was Jesus who told us that our God was also his God.I have never said anything to the contrary of God's word on this.Why do you lie?So then you agree with me and Jesus that all three of us have the same God?Your 'God' is Jesus'…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 5 months ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 12 2012,17:34)Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 12 2012,09:22)Mike,A perfect example of God giving the words through Moses to Aaron showing that they are God's words and not Moses' own words.Read and learn.Oh, you mean like Jesus speaking, not of his own initiative, but ONLY what his God and our God had TOLD him to speak?Read and…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 5 months ago

    Pierre,Quote God his lord of lords and if Christ his lord of lords ,why would it say that God is lord of lords Why do you write 'his' for 'is' sometimes?Anyway, take your question to YHWH and wait and listen for Him to answer you. Ask with a whole heart, not one that leans on your previous understanding.

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    Quote (Marlin1 @ Dec. 02 2012,00:06)Quote Kathi said, “If you can't believe that Jesus is the only begotten God,”  Hi Kathi, You believe in the trinity, yet here you make one of your Gods to have a beginning.Gods don't have beginning or endings. You see, it wasn't three persons, or three gods,  It was God in three offices.The Father (God over U…[Read more]

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    Marty,Yes, you should never worship Jesus just because you should. That would just be religion. It is an expression of a contrite heart.

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    Quote But for us sane people, it means “one in purpose”.The oneness that Jesus speaks of gets Him accused of blasphemy and eventually crucified because He is making Himself out to be God.John 10 30“I and the Father are one.” 31The Jews picked up stones again to stone Him. 32Jesus answered them, “I showed you many good works from the Father; for w…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 11 2012,18:46)Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 10 2012,23:09)I kill and I make aliveJohn 11:25 Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in me will live, even though he dies;John 6:57Just as the living Father sent me and I live because of the Father, so the one who feeds on me will live because of…[Read more]

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    Mike,you said:Quote And why is that, Kathi? Because of Deut 10:17, where the Father was called the God of gods and Lord of lords?Show me anywhere in the Bible that says the Father is the God of gods and the Lord of lords with both titles in the same verse as well as the word 'Father.'If you can't see that Jesus identifies Himself as Jehovah in…[Read more]

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    terrarricca,You will have to give account to YHWH for all you careless and foolish false judgements against the Christian, btw.

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 5 months ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 11 2012,18:35)Quote (t8 @ Dec. 10 2012,15:41)Mike, Kathi will need to correct God next.Why not?  She already corrects His holy servant Jesus all the time.It was Jesus who told us who to worship and serve as our God.It was Jesus who told us that our God was also his God.But Kathi feels she needs to correct her Lord on…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 5 months ago

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 12 2012,00:03)Quote (t8 @ Dec. 12 2012,10:37)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 12 2012,13:37)Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 11 2012,00:14)what went wrong in your book ???:):) :):)  :)  :)You can't say that Jesus is LORD as in Jehovah, the Son.The scripture says that no one can say that except by the Spirit of God. and you laugh???

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 5 months ago

    Mike,A perfect example of God giving the words through Moses to Aaron showing that they are God's words and not Moses' own words.Exodus 8:5And the LORD spake unto Moses, Say unto Aaron, Stretch forth thine hand with thy rod over the streams, over the rivers, and over the ponds, and cause frogs to come up upon the land of Egypt.Read and learn.

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 5 months ago

    Quote (t8 @ Dec. 11 2012,23:39)Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 12 2012,11:15)You say He is Lord.I say He is LORD!LORD as in Jehovah, the Son.You can't say that Jesus is LORD as in Jehovah, the Son.Scripture says he is Lord.And you deny that he is Lord.What does scripture say about that.Something serious.Are you serious. You think that I deny that Jesus is…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 5 months ago

    Quote (t8 @ Dec. 11 2012,23:38)Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 12 2012,11:15)You say He is Lord.I say He is LORD!LORD as in Jehovah, the Son.You can't say that Jesus is LORD as in Jehovah, the Son.How can God make Jesus LORD?Exactly! One has to always exist to be given that name. Hint, hint…the mystery is unfolding before your eyes.

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