Quote (t8 @ Dec. 19 2012,18:11)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 14 2012,14:24)I've offered the fact that Jesus prays for the disciples also to be “one”.  Surely that doesn't mean the disciples will become some “Echad Unity Disciplehead”, right?  Instead, Jesus prays to his God for the disciples to become “one in purpose”, IMO.I don't know of any B…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 12 2012,18:11)Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 12 2012,09:54)Quote But for us sane people, it means “one in purpose”.The oneness that Jesus speaks of gets Him accused of blasphemy and eventually crucified because He is making Himself out to be God.John 10 30“I and the Father are one.” 31The Jews picked up stones again to stone Him…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Dec. 19 2012,18:08)This is what happens Mike when people start to babble. They create doctrines that belong to Babylon. Their fruit is confusion.Sorry t8, but that seems so arrogant coming from one that I have clearly corrected on many points of confusion regarding scriptures as well as false statements about me.

Quote (t8 @ Dec. 19 2012,18:12)Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 11 2012,19:38)Jesus said, “I and the Father are one.”Would Jesus lie? No. I agree with Jesus.And Jesus never lied when he said we can be one too.How convenient to forget that he said that too.We can be 'one' as believers. They are 'one' as who the believers believe in. The Father and the Son…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Dec. 19 2012,18:18)Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 13 2012,05:54)Quote But for us sane people, it means “one in purpose”.The oneness that Jesus speaks of gets Him accused of blasphemy and eventually crucified because He is making Himself out to be God.John 10 30“I and the Father are one.” 31The Jews picked up stones again to stone Him. 32J…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 19 2012,20:36)Quote (t8 @ Dec. 19 2012,17:11)I don't know of any Binatarians, Trinitarians, and Quadrinitarians that talk about that oneness. They prefer to keep it to the Father and Jesus, that way it fits nicely with their doctrines.I'm not sure if Kathi forgot about this thread, but I'm still waiting for the scriptures…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 17 2012,19:49)So then, TWO completely separate Almighty Gods, who “unite”, or “combine” into ONE God?Which one?  “Unite”?  Or “Combine”?  And after the uniting or combining, are we still left with TWO Almighty Gods?  Or do they unite/combine into ONE being?Also, there are many posts awaiting responses from you – if you…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 19 2012,18:58)Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 19 2012,11:12)Here is another 'key' from John:John 8:28So Jesus told them, “When you have lifted up the Son of Man, then you will know that I AM, and that I do nothing on my own authority. Instead, I speak only what the Father has taught me. John wrote the gospel of John because the…[Read more]

God can become flesh and be both God and man at the same time. Man can die. Man can be hungry.A royal prince can spend time in a foreign land and live as a pauper and would be both a royal prince and a pauper at the same time. The royal blood doesn't leave the prince if he chooses to live in a foreign land as a pauper, does it? When God the Son…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ Dec. 20 2012,08:02)T, we will be judged for every word that we say against another believer in God and his son. Careful.Very true!!

Quote (t8 @ Dec. 20 2012,05:34)And the reason this was ever brought up was to prove that theos and elohim can apply to others besides YHWH. Whereas Trinitarians and Binitarians say that only the Father and Jesus, and/or the Spirit are God. If Satan is the theos of this world, then that casts doubt on Jesus being YHWH by reason of being called…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 19 2012,20:20)Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 18 2012,17:56)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 18 2012,16:39)Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 18 2012,11:39)A sidenote in regards to your other post:Those 'faithful followers' are from the world.  John 17:16 They do not belong to the world just as I do not belong to the world.They are/were still IN…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Dec. 20 2012,05:35)Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 19 2012,07:39)If your confession is that Jesus is Lord, what you mean is that He is lord because you teach that He is not Lord of lords since that would be YHWH.  Get it?Fair enough. You also say he is Lord, but only when challenged. “No one can say Jesus is Lord but by the Spirit of God”.I…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 19 2012,20:09)Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 18 2012,23:12)Here is another 'key' from John:John 8:28So Jesus told them, “When you have lifted up the Son of Man, then you will know that I AM, and that I do nothing on my own authority. Instead, I speak only what the Father has taught me.Pierre,Kathi WANTS Jesus to have said, “then…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 19 2012,20:00)Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 18 2012,17:55)Mike,I am quite aware that you cannot make this confession:Because I inform you of this: there is no man who speaks by The Spirit of God and says, “Yeshua is damned”, neither can a man say, “Yeshua is THE LORD JEHOVAH”, except by The Spirit of Holiness.I can confess…[Read more]

The Father and the Son together with their Spirit have always been one in the corporate sense.

By definition, nothing is impossible with God…God can be whatever He needs to be, Bo.

Try it now, Mike.

MerryCHRISTmasYa'll

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 18 2012,16:39)Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 18 2012,11:39)A sidenote in regards to your other post:Those 'faithful followers' are from the world.  John 17:16 They do not belong to the world just as I do not belong to the world.Mike,All men alive on earth are in this world. Some of these men belong to the 'Light' and some…[Read more]