Mike asked:Quote That answer does not even address my question, Kathi. Why is Jesus so often listed as someone OTHER THAN Jehovah, our one and only God? In other words, we all have but ONE God, Jehovah. Jesus also has this ONE God as his own God, right? So why is Jesus so often clearly listed in scripture as someone OTHER THAN our ONE God? Jesu…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 10 2013,12:42)Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 06 2013,21:23)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 06 2013,18:59)Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 05 2013,21:35)The second power is the Son, the Word of YHVH/the Arm of YHVH……..You mean like Cyrus, who is also called the “arm of YHWH”?  Was Cyrus the “second power”?Mike,You are just being ridiculous…[Read more]

You should also worship Him as the theos of theos. Agreed?

So, t8, since theos can apply to Jesus Christ, according to Hebrews 1, all the angels should worship the theos-Jesus, the Firstborn.So when you worship Jesus as the Lamb of theos and the Son of theos, you should also worship Him as the theos of theos. Agreed?

Hello Bo,you said:Quote Jesus didn't say tht the word of God was the way, he said “I am the way” he was speaking as Jesus but can you een tell me where the Bible says that the “word of God” spoke to Noah?Rev 19:13 He is clothed in a robe dipped in blood, and the name by which he is called is The Word of God.Bo, this verse in Rev 19 is saying that…[Read more]

Bo,The two angels of Gen 18 appeared as men and ate food. We aren't told about these bodies that appeared as men and could eat. Apparently angelic beings can appear as men and act as men yet still be angels. They are supernatural beings with abilities to transform their appearances. There was no mention that they took over already existing…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 06 2013,19:15)Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 05 2013,21:40)In Acts 13, the God of Abraham, et al is the Father…one of the powers of YHVH. The Servant of Abraham is the second power of YHVH as the incarnated God/Man.So why do you think they spoke about the God (not “Gods”) of Abraham, and listed Jesus as someone OTHER THAN…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 06 2013,19:11)Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 05 2013,21:37)Who does the creed specifically say by whom all things are made?Well, since the creed was originally written by Eusebius in the Greek language, the word used was most likely “dia”.The people who translated the creed from Greek to English should have translated the word…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 06 2013,18:59)Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 05 2013,21:35)The second power is the Son, the Word of YHVH/the Arm of YHVH……..You mean like Cyrus, who is also called the “arm of YHWH”?  Was Cyrus the “second power”?Jesus is never called “YHWH” in the scriptures, because that is not his name.  And it is not his name because he I…[Read more]

Hi 2besee,The Holy Spirit is within both of the two powers of YHVH. Our spirit is within us. imo

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 04 2013,20:27)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 26 2013,20:31)Here's another question for you:Acts 3:13The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the God of our fathers, has glorified his servant Jesus.Kathi, who EXACTLY, is the God of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and the patriarchs?And who is the servant OF that God?Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 28…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 04 2013,20:30)Also, according to the Nicene Creed you posted:Who is EXPLICITELY said to be “maker of heaven and earth, and of all things visible and invisible”?The Father.Who does the creed specifically say by whom all things are made?

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 29 2013,20:32)Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 29 2013,18:50)If you don't know Mike, then you should stop acting like you do when you say Jesus did not create one thing.Kathi,I can only parrot the scriptures on this one:Malachi 2:10 Have we not all one Father? Did not one God create us?1 Cor 8:6yet for us there is but one God, the…[Read more]

Hi Bo,I've had a lot going on. Sorry it has taken me a few days to respond.You said:Quote The angels could have bee present in a person much like God was present wthin Christ.Please explain how you think God was present within Christ.Quote Also who said aything about denying Christ?John 14:6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and t…[Read more]

According to this, no one was 'mothered' before Eve since she was the mother of all the living.Genesis 3:2020The man called his wife’s name Eve, because she was the mother of all living.

Hi Bo,I'm wiped out right now. We had a party with about 40 people here tonight for a birthday party (and an extra dog) and now I have about 15 or them sleeping throughout the house, ha! I'll probably get to this tomorrow. G'nite

I'm thinking that this verse is relevant to the discussion:Romans 3:19Now we know that whatever the law says it speaks to those who are under the law, so that every mouth may be stopped, and the whole world may be held accountable to God. 20For by works of the law no human beingc will be justified in his sight, since through the law comes…[Read more]

Hi Bo,I am happy that you love Christ, no matter if he is the literal son or not. At least you are not dogmatically against the idea.Regarding blood needed in order to eat…well, in Gen 18, the three 'men' (one was listed as being YHWH, two were angels) ate what Abraham had served. So that negates what you said about needing blood in your body in…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 29 2013,20:14)Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 29 2013,18:54)Mike did you see that I bolded that part about the Father too? And the part about the Son?No.  But I see it now!    Sorry.Which one is EXPLICITELY said to be “maker of heaven and earth, and of all things visible and invisible”?Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 29 2013,18:54)I ad…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 26 2013,17:35)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 25 2013,19:51)Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 23 2013,12:57)Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 23 2013,12:32)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 26 2012,01:57)I agree with you William and I am glad that we agree together on the Nicene Creed and both understand the word 'catholic' as meaning universal and not Roman…[Read more]