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Lightenup replied to the topic The divider of Christians in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 1 month ago
Thank you wakeup! So, just to be sure…who do you say is the ''I” in Isaiah 63.
Lightenup replied to the topic Root and branch in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 1 month ago
Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 21 2013,23:04)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 22 2013,09:30)Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 21 2013,20:05)LU,Jesus is the offspring of Jesse, the shoot that comes out of the stump of Jesse. The stump that is rooted in Yawheh. Jesus is the root of Jesse, the corner stone that is laid in Zion. The foundation stones of the prophets were laid fi…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Root and branch in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 1 month ago
Mike,you asked:Quote Is Jesse the root of David? YES or NO?Is David the root of Jesse? YES or NO? No, Jesse is not considered the root of David in the context of Isa 11. Although, we could say 'yes' to that in a sense but not in the same sense it is used in Isa 11.No, David is not the root of Jesse.I don't believe that a father or forefather are…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Root and branch in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 1 month ago
Quote (2besee @ Mar. 23 2013,08:05)Quote:Martin LutherThe greatest name in the records of the Protestant church is Martin Luther. He is generally recognized as its founder; he is considered one of the highest authorities on the Bible; he devoted a large portion of his life to its study; he made a translation of it for his people, a work which is…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Origen's understanding of John 1:1 in the forum Exta-biblical Writings 13 years, 1 month ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 23 2013,13:30)Quote (t8 @ Mar. 22 2013,00:18)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 22 2013,18:02)t8,The Hebrew word ha-adam has the article 'ha' and refers to one person no matter what their proper name is. ……….adam without the article refers to mankind in general. So 'the adam' can refer to Seth, or Noah, or Moses.True because…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The divider of Christians in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 1 month ago
Mike,Compare Isaiah 63 with Rev 19:Isa 631Who is this coming from Edom,from Bozrah, with his garments stained crimson?Who is this, robed in splendor,striding forward in the greatness of his strength?“It is I, proclaiming victory,mighty to save.”2Why are your garments red,like those of one treading the winepress?3“I have trodden the winepress alone…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Origen's understanding of John 1:1 in the forum Exta-biblical Writings 13 years, 1 month ago
Quote (t8 @ Mar. 22 2013,00:18)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 22 2013,18:02)t8,The Hebrew word ha-adam has the article 'ha' and refers to one person no matter what their proper name is. If the proper name is meant 'Adam' there is no 'ha' with it. That is what the article is saying. It is also saying that adam without the article refers to mankind in…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Where is God exactly in the forum View Points 13 years, 1 month ago
Hi Daniel,This picture of one cell coming from a parent cell helps give a picture of an offspring coming from a parent and the offspring has only one parent and is identical to that parent in form, function, and attributes although it was 'begotten.' You and I see God as always having been a parent and like the picture of the cell from some point…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The divider of Christians in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 1 month ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 23 2013,11:07)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 20 2013,22:32)The 'I' is YHVH, the Son, as the 'Root' and He fulfills the prophecy as the 'Shoot/offspring of David.'Kathi, The “I” in the passage has his garments stained with the blood of the ones he destroyed – not his own blood.How does that link to Jesus, the offspring of…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Compound unity scriptural database in the forum Group Discussions 13 years, 1 month ago
John 3:16NET Bible (©2006)For this is the way God loved the world: He gave his one and only Son, so that everyone who believes in him will not perish but have eternal life.The word 'everyone' has the sense of plurality but is written in the singular as well as the verbs that go with it.
Lightenup replied to the topic 2 words-nominative case w/1verb database in the forum Group Discussions 13 years, 1 month ago
Mark 10:8AND THE TWO SHALL BECOME ONE FLESH; so they are no longer two, but one flesh.The word 'the' is in the nominative case and is an article and the subject of the sentence. The word 'flesh' is also in the nominative case but does not have an article. So, it seems that the words 'one flesh' has a sense of equivalency with 'the…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic 2 words-nominative case w/1verb database in the forum Group Discussions 13 years, 1 month ago
This spot is a placeholder for a possible future compilation of some or all of the verses that are most similar in construction to John 1:1c.
Lightenup replied to the topic LU and BD Biblical discussion cont'd in the forum Debates 13 years, 1 month ago
Bo,Please answer this question:Do you really believe that the Bible does not call Jesus, theos?
Lightenup replied to the topic Origen's understanding of John 1:1 in the forum Exta-biblical Writings 13 years, 1 month ago
Quote (t8 @ Mar. 21 2013,22:39)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 22 2013,16:18)t8,The 'appendix 3' in the quote box here agrees that the article is significant but its significance disagrees with your application of it. The quote says that adam with the article would not refer to the person with the proper name of Adam.If that is correct, then your…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic LU and BD Biblical discussion cont'd in the forum Debates 13 years, 1 month ago
Bo,Do you really think that Moses or Paul were divine? If not, then why even mention them? On the other hand, Jesus is one that existed pre-flesh and in the beginning and through Him all things were made and through His sacrifice all men were given the opportunity to be saved and have eternal life with Him.Do you really believe that the Bible does…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Root and branch in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 1 month ago
Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 21 2013,20:05)LU,Jesus is the offspring of Jesse, the shoot that comes out of the stump of Jesse. The stump that is rooted in Yawheh. Jesus is the root of Jesse, the corner stone that is laid in Zion. The foundation stones of the prophets were laid first. Jesus, the cornerstone was laid next, the foundation stones of the…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Origen's understanding of John 1:1 in the forum Exta-biblical Writings 13 years, 1 month ago
Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 21 2013,20:49)I found this from another Hebrew site that says that the word 'adam' with the article would never refer to the person with the proper name of 'Adam.' The article in Hebrew is 'ha' and HaAdam is adam with the article.Quote Appendix 3:'Adam' and Hebrew GrammarEth 'Eth' is put before the object of the s…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Origen's understanding of John 1:1 in the forum Exta-biblical Writings 13 years, 1 month ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 21 2013,20:51)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 21 2013,19:40)Is http://www.bible.cc working for you tonight? It's not working for me for some reason.Is that Biblos.com? I don't know any site by the name “bible.cc”. If you are referring to Biblos, then yes, it is working for me. That's where I located the Exodus scripture.Yes Mi…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Origen's understanding of John 1:1 in the forum Exta-biblical Writings 13 years, 1 month ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 21 2013,19:39)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 21 2013,10:19)Quote (t8 @ Mar. 21 2013,06:13)Certainly there is the reference that THE God is greater than the Word. Please show us this reference.Well, Jesus is called “the Word of God” because he is God's spokesman, right? So who is greater Kathi, the spokesman, or the king for…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Origen's understanding of John 1:1 in the forum Exta-biblical Writings 13 years, 1 month ago
I found this from another Hebrew site that says that the word 'adam' with the article would never refer to the person with the proper name of 'Adam.' The article in Hebrew is 'ha' and HaAdam is adam with the article.Quote Appendix 3:'Adam' and Hebrew GrammarEth 'Eth' is put before the object of the sentence if the object is either a…[Read more]
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