1 Cor 12:12 The body is a unit, though it is made up of many parts; and though all its parts are many, they form one body. So it is with Christ. 13 For we were all baptized by one Spirit into one body-whether Jews or Greeks, slave or free-and we were all given the one Spirit to drink. 14 Now the body is not made up of one part but of many. 15 If…[Read more]

Hmmm…more lies about a member from the disgruntled moderator (which breaks his own rules of the forum that he himself has made but then again, he has no problem breaking the first commandments that God has made, so the problem just carries on).Quote 1) You break an important commandment.2) Best case scenario for those who teach others to break…[Read more]

Joshua 24:19King James BibleAnd Joshua said unto the people, Ye cannot serve the LORD: for he is an holy God; he is a jealous God; he will not forgive your transgressions nor your sins.According to the Hebrew, it appears that this verse should say:And Joshua said unto the people, Ye cannot serve the LORD: for the holy ONES are HE;…Gill says:”In…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Mar. 27 2013,02:05)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 27 2013,20:04)t8A tree comes into being from a seed, that doesn't mean it's coming into being was a beginning of existence. It just means that it came into being in a different state. It went from within a seed to be apart from the seed. It existed within the seed before it came forth from the…[Read more]

I suppose if t8 is willing to break the first commandments then he would have no problem with lying about others and breaking his own rules that he himself established on HN. The Greek word 'theos' does not have the definition 'theoskind' as an option, with or without an article but the Hebrew word 'adam' does have the option of 'mankind.'Strong's…[Read more]

Bump for Mike.

Bo, we are commanded to love Jehovah as our only God. So, if any being is called god and is not Jehovah, we are not to make them a god of us. We are not to bow down to them, to serve them, to make covenants with them, etc. The million dollar question is whether Jesus is Jehovah or part of the Jehovah's deity? If so, He needs to be worshiped and…[Read more]

Kerwin, No one would be able to worship Jesus if He wasn't the Jehovah that became man because the Holy Spirit wouldn't have been given to us since we would remain in our sins. Jesus had to become a man to be our kinsman redeemer and mediator and Savior. I worship all that the Father is and Son is…the Root AND the Shoot, Jehovah and man. It is…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Mar. 26 2013,00:16)Most early Fathers who mention the Word talk about it residing in God as an attribute and then it being brought forth at some point like a flame that lights another flame. Where as you believe that there was always 2 flames (so to speak).We see a similar account regarding Wisdom in scripture. Spoken of as an…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Mar. 26 2013,23:38)Also notice the words “But He came into being”.What does that tell you?t8A tree comes into being from a seed, that doesn't mean it's coming into being was a beginning of existence. It just means that it came into being in a different state. It went from within a seed to be apart from the seed. It existed within the…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Mar. 26 2013,02:33)You have made it clear that One who is YHWH sent the other who is YHWH.You have made it clear that YHWH is more than one person or identity.You have made it clear that Jesus is ALSO the Almighty God.Kathi, no one here ascribes credibility to you or your doctrine.Think for a minute. Paul and us disagree with you.The…[Read more]

Hi t8,Let's look at the first commandment and see if one of us is breaking it:Exodus 202“I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery.3“You shall have no other gods before me.What does that mean to have no other gods before me? Does that mean that you can have other gods, just make sure the Lord your God tha…[Read more]

t8you said:Quote I am saying that the Word in God was brought forth to be with him.Did that 'Word' always exist within God before it was brought forth to be with Him? Are God's attributes as eternal as He is?Was there ever a time when God lacked one or two or more of His attributes according to you?

Quote (t8 @ Mar. 26 2013,02:40)Also, I am not saying I preexisted. I don't know where you get half this stuff.You keep saying that you are going to have the nature of a god like Jesus someday but now you say you didn't pre-exist your flesh so tell me how are you going to be like the theos who pre-existed His flesh if you didn't pre-exist your…[Read more]

jb2uSorry, not offense intended, just concern because I see you taking a serious wrong turn.Read Psalm 89:6For who in the skies is comparable to the LORD? Who among the sons of the mighty is like the LORD, 7A God greatly feared in the council of the holy ones, And awesome above all those who are around Him? 😯 LORD…[Read more]

Yes, Kerwin, this is genealogical but it is talking about those who came before 'her' (Deborah), her ancestors. The 'root of her' does not include her as the 'root.' She is not an ancestor to the branch mentioned here, she is a sister to the branch apparently according to what Gill says. So even though the root is genealogical, it is not used as…[Read more]

No, I am saying that in the beginning there were two who were theos (so does John and Ignatius…John 1:1). One of those theos sent the other theos to become flesh and from that time, the other theos was not just theos but theos AND man.

t8,You confuse that which always existed and was brought forth by another with that which didn't always exist but was made to exist by another. There is no comparison, sorry. Hopefully you will someday realize that you have not always existed. If you did then everyone pre-existed their flesh and not just Jesus.

Both cells are the same type…The Father and the Son are both the same type of person, the mighty God type. Together they are even mightier.

Quote (t8 @ Mar. 26 2013,01:25)Kathi, even that does not mean that JEsus is YHWH the Most High God.Jesus said, 'ye are theos'. There you go. If they can be 'theos' then how much more Jesus. And if angels are elohim, then would not someone greater also be and that much more.You see, either way you lose the debate.For us there is one God the…[Read more]