Kerwin,You neglect the Jewish understanding of the “Word of Jehovah” as given to us in the Targums. The Targums reflect the Jewish understanding of that title. The Targums apply that title to the Jehovah that speaks to them. The OT tells us clearly that the Word of Jehovah is also Jehovah…there are two called Jehovah, the Father and the Son. The…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 16 2013,20:31)Yeah Pierre.  It's hard to read Heb 1:8 and still refuse to believe Jesus is a god.It is hard to believe that you have trouble connecting the theos of Heb 1:8 who is the' Word' of John 1:1 with the 'Word of Jehovah' in Gen 15:1-7 who calls Himself Jehovah, with John 17:11-12, showing two who have same name,…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ April 07 2013,21:28)Quote (Lightenup @ April 08 2013,16:21)We know that Judas wasn't there in the Again, if there are two devils, one could be with the other, right?If there are two theos, one could be with the other also. The Second Root was with the First Root…two who are both equally roots…with each other. Not a difficult…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ April 07 2013,21:24)Quote (Lightenup @ April 08 2013,13:21)Was God – In the previous phrase John had said that the Word was “with God.” Lest it should be supposed that he was a different and inferior being, here John states that “he was God.” There is no more unequivocal declaration in the Bible than this, and there could be no…[Read more]

Hi t8,Sorry it has been a while…I have been busy with other things.I am wondering why you took out half of the sentence when you quoted me in your last post, first line?

Quote (jb2u @ April 17 2013,07:50)Quote (Lightenup @ April 08 2013,11:17)jb2u,I believe you did not answer this or maybe I missed it. Please answer this:Can you prove that Jesus is not the only begotten God the Son? Can you prove that Jesus is not claiming to be God the Son? I am not asking you to prove that Jesus isn't God the Father.Sorry, I've…[Read more]

And this verse:Prov 9:10Young's Literal TranslationThe commencement of wisdom is the fear of Jehovah, And a knowledge of the Holy Ones is understanding.The Hebrew word for 'holy' is written in the plural!Another plurality in unity support verse for Jehovah as the eternal unity.

Ok Bo, you don't need to argue. I will keep posting here when I think something is relevant. For instance, I just came across this:Joshua 24:19Young's Literal TranslationAnd Joshua saith unto the people, 'Ye are not able to serve Jehovah, for a God most holy He is; a zealous God He is; He doth not bear with your transgression and with your…[Read more]

Joshua 24:19Young's Literal TranslationAnd Joshua saith unto the people, 'Ye are not able to serve Jehovah, for a God most holy He is; a zealous God He is; He doth not bear with your transgression and with your sins.Literally in the Hebrew, “for the holy ones are he.”Gill's comment on this here:In the Hebrew text it is, “for the Holy Ones are he”:…[Read more]

Proverbs 9:10Young's Literal TranslationThe commencement of wisdom is the fear of Jehovah, And a knowledge of the Holy Ones is understanding.Yes, the Hebrew has 'holy' as a plural!!

Quote (journey42 @ April 06 2013,23:28)Quote (terraricca @ April 06 2013,14:59)I start to believe that Kathy is like a car salesman ,that as a rotten car to sell ,he knows but it does not stop him from trying to sell it to an unaware individual ,:DPierre,From what I've read, Kathy is a real lady, and doesn't have spite in her heart.  If she…[Read more]

Hi Bo, I hope you are ok!

Ok, so go to the movies this weekend. The Harrison Ford movie that I am in, “42, The Jackie Robinson Story,” came out today. Here is a song from it. When you watch the movie, you will be told what denomination God is according to Branch Rickey, (played by Mr. Harrison Ford).  Here are the lyrics to the song:Sister Wynona Carr – The Ball Game So…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ April 07 2013,21:13)Quote (Lightenup @ April 08 2013,16:01)We know that Judas wasn't there in the beginning like the Word was. Also…We know that Judas was only a man, not a heavenly pre-existent being, like satan was. It doesn't take a brain surgeon to realize that just because Judas is a devil, he is not a literal devil. He did not…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ April 07 2013,20:56)Quote (Lightenup @ April 08 2013,13:06)BTW, I don't see anything in Barnes, Clarke's, or Gill's commentary that would be in opposition to devil-like. Why are you making such a big deal out of a description that you already agreed to?Because you deny that the Word is God-like, God-kind, like God. I show how it is…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ April 07 2013,20:38)Quote (Lightenup @ April 08 2013,12:45)They don't say devil-like. Do you disagree that Judas was devil-like?You missed the point haven't you?If Jesus says that Judas was a devil, and we know that he was not a literal devil, but was devil like, then you can plainly see how something can be likened to something by…[Read more]

kerwin,you said to Mike,Quote Jesse is Jesse's offspring as in stump of Jesse's offspring. Jesus is the branch of Jesse's offspring. He is a branch among Jesse's offspring. A branch that is fruitful, which is to say a root.David is a branch among Jesse's children and also a root for he sired children for the entire group of Jesse'…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 03 2013,20:36)Quote (kerwin @ April 02 2013,22:26)Mike,Jesse is Jesse's offspring as in stump of Jesse's offspring.   Jesus is the branch of Jesse's offspring.  He is a branch among Jesse's offspring.  A branch that is fruitful, which is to say a root.David is a branch among Jesse's children and also a root for he si…[Read more]

Quote (abe @ April 07 2013,17:32)Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 04 2013,17:51)Quote (kerwin @ April 04 2013,12:32)Quote (kerwin @ April 02 2013,12:12)To all,Isaiah 53:10King James Version (KJV)10 Yet it pleased the Lord to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong…[Read more]

Mike,Is it not correct to say that the dog is a dog? or the tree is also a tree? or, the God is also a God? Too much is being made of the 'article' or lack thereof. A God is also the only begotten God. See what I mean?Like I said, John 1 is about God with God…