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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 13 years ago

    Pierre,Do you realize that an action is not an object?

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 13 years ago

    So, Pierre, was the act of begetting the first step of the creation of God, in your opinion?

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 13 years ago

    Pierre, do you believe that Jesus was begotten before creation?

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 13 years ago

    But Jesus was there before the creation, right Pierre?

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 13 years ago

    Quote (kerwin @ June 18 2013,16:44)LU,Does Jehovah sit on David's throne?Yes Kerwin, Jehovah the Son sits on David's throne according to His role as the Son of Man.

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 13 years ago

    So Pierre, there were two theos in the beginning before creation, right?

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    That is good Pierre, consider both. The original would be the one that was God breathed and the other one may also be God breathed. When you come to what seems to be discrepancies, then the original would be the one to go by though. The true original would give the clearest wording so studying about that language and the idioms unique to that…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 13 years ago

    Pierre,Did your LORD Jesus who is a theos exist before creation?

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 13 years ago

    Pierre, I will tell you what that is to me and to you…if you deny who He is you cannot enter the narrow gate. It has eternal implications. He is the only way through the gate. Even the demons believe that He is the Son of God, that is not enough to believe about Him. Now, is He your theos or not?

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 13 years ago

    Pierre,You asked:Quote How can Jesus be my God if we both him and I have the same GodAnswer, for starters:1. You and all things in heaven and on earth were created through the theos, Jesus.2. Your salvation and eternal life depends on what the theos, Jesus, did for you and all mankind.3. This theos, Jesus, is the head of the church which you claim…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 13 years ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 18 2013,18:56)Quote (Lightenup @ June 17 2013,22:44)Well, we are making progress!How so?You agree that Jesus is the theos that is our righteousness.

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 13 years ago

    But Pierre, if Jesus your god?

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    Lightenup replied to the topic Lightenup and jb2u only in the forum Debates 13 years ago

    jb,you said:Quote As for Psalms 110You are confusing the Hebrew. There is Adoni and Adonai. Verse 5 does NOT call Jesus by YHVH or Adonai. It calls Him Adoni. The use of the “lord” is a “royal” title granted to those given authority by God, not meaning that they our God themselves. There are several instances in the Bible where men, including…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic Lightenup and jb2u only in the forum Debates 13 years ago

    Quote (jb2u @ June 18 2013,10:04)Quote (Lightenup @ June 18 2013,05:50)you ask:Quote WHY would Jesus need the Holy Spirit of God if HE was God?This just would not make sense! Keep in mind that He emptied Himself of whatever was necessary to become like man.Phil 2:7but emptied Himself, taking the form of a bond-servant, and being made in the…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic Lightenup and jb2u only in the forum Debates 13 years ago

    Quote (jb2u @ June 18 2013,10:08)Quote (Lightenup @ June 18 2013,05:54)Quote Why would the “grace of God” be “UPON” Jesus (Luke 2:40) if Jesus IS God? Again, this makes NO SENSE if Jesus IS God!Heb 2For this reason he had to be made like them, fully human in every way, in order that he might become a merciful and faithful high priest in service to…[Read more]

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    Bo,you have completely taken something said in one context and use it to manipulate guilt on me in a completely different context. This is something the Pharisees were doing also.you said:Quote Matthew 12:7But if ye had known what this meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice, ye would not have condemned the guiltless.You ought to read about…[Read more]

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    Mike,Aramaic is a family of dialects and all the dialects can be said to be Aramaic. See here:Aramaic is a family of languages (traditionally referred to as “dialects”) belonging to the Semitic family, and more specifically, is a part of the Northwest Semitic subfamily, which also includes Canaanite languages such as Hebrew and Phoenician. Aramaic…[Read more]

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    Aramaic Bible in Plain English (©2010)Acts 26:14And we all fell upon the ground, and I heard a voice, which said to me in Judean Aramaic, “Shaul, Shaul, why do you persecute me? It is hard for you to kick the goads.”John 20:16Aramaic Bible in Plain English (©2010)Yeshua said to her, “Maryam.” And she turned and said to him in Judean Aramaic,<…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 13 years ago

    No Pierre, is he yours?

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 13 years ago

    Quote (Lightenup @ June 18 2013,11:38)Is Christ YOUR god, Pierre?Pierre,Answer the question.

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