Bo,This is a discussion not a debate. Ideally we would come to an agreement on what is true and that would be a win-win for both of us. I don't think of you as trying to mislead me, don't worry about that. I think you have sincere questions and I am happy to answer them with scripture, give you my understanding, and show you a perspective that…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 25 2013,20:22)Quote (Lightenup @ June 25 2013,18:01)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 25 2013,18:25)Also, what is Jesus' NEW name?Mike,…….he shall be called, THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS.So if that is his NEW name, then he HASN'T been “Jehovah our Righteousness” from eternity, has he?Of course, we already knew from John 17:11-12…[Read more]

But Kerwin, I never said that Jesus sitting on YHVH's throne makes Him YHVH. I said it was His eternal self-existent nature that He shares with His Father that makes them both YHVH.

Quote (terraricca @ June 25 2013,19:01)Quote (Lightenup @ June 26 2013,05:52)Pierre,1 John 11That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked at and our hands have touched—this we proclaim concerning the Word of life. 2The life appeared; we have seen it and testify to it, and we p…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 25 2013,18:25)Rev 3:12I will write on them the name of my God and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem, which is coming down out of heaven from my God; and I will also write on them my new name.Kathi, do you think those bolded conjunctions are there just for fun?Also, what is Jesus' NEW name?Mike,Jeremiah…[Read more]

Pierre,1 John 11That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked at and our hands have touched—this we proclaim concerning the Word of life. 2The life appeared; we have seen it and testify to it, and we proclaim to you the eternal life, which was with the Father and has appeared to us.

Quote (terraricca @ June 24 2013,20:03)Quote (Lightenup @ June 25 2013,06:38)Pierre,We do NOT know from scripture that the Son was created as his very first creation. In fact He possessed Him before His works of old.Kathypossessed him only means that ” HE WAS THERE ” you cannot possessed some thing that does not exist ,right yes and sins God…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 24 2013,20:11)Quote (Lightenup @ June 24 2013,17:56)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 24 2013,18:32)Quote (Lightenup @ June 24 2013,17:20)I suppose YHVH our righteousness could be written and that one name cover all three, God the Father, the city and Jesus.So then the name of the Father is also “Jehovah is our Righteousness”?…[Read more]

Kerwin,Quote It appears you are applying different meanings to words associated with Jesus than those same words associated with believers. How so?Quote So according to this the whole family is named of the Father. Why doesn't that mean each member is named JehovahThat would be pretty confusing don't you think? We will have His name on our…[Read more]

Quote (Jodi Lee @ June 25 2013,13:45)Quote (Lightenup @ June 25 2013,11:32)Jodi Lee,Welcome back! From what I have gained from researching about the Logos of John 1:1, the Word of the Lord was a very familiar expression to the Jews which you can see in the Jewish Targums. John was referring to that 'Word' that they were very familiar with.Quote In…[Read more]

Bo,Quote You say Satan has been defeated if that were the case how is it the scripture says:1 Peter 5:8Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:So the truth is Satan is still very much active and leading many to misery in this life and hell in the next.Because Jesus laid…[Read more]

Pierre,We do NOT know from scripture that the Son was created as his very first creation. In fact He possessed Him before His works of old.

Jodi Lee,Welcome back! From what I have gained from researching about the Logos of John 1:1, the Word of the Lord was a very familiar expression to the Jews which you can see in the Jewish Targums. John was referring to that 'Word' that they were very familiar with.Quote In Aramaic, a standard term for word is memra. The Aramaic Targums, however,…[Read more]

Mike,The blood on the robe before the battle represents the blood of the martyrs that Jesus is going to defend, imo.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 24 2013,18:25)Quote (Lightenup @ June 24 2013,16:47)Well Mike,Scripture tells us that Jehovah is both the God of gods and the Lord of lords and that there is one God, the Father and one Lord, Jesus Christ…also that Jesus Christ is the Lord of lords. So, I didn't make it up…it is written. Using that criteria, I could…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 24 2013,18:32)Quote (Lightenup @ June 24 2013,17:20)I suppose YHVH our righteousness could be written and that one name cover all three, God the Father, the city and Jesus.So then the name of the Father is also “Jehovah is our Righteousness”?  Kathi, in 3:12, Jesus clearly speaks of writing THREE different names on…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ June 24 2013,18:24)Quote (Lightenup @ June 25 2013,04:26)Kerwin,It is written here:Rev 3:21The one who conquers, I will grant him to sit with me on my throne, as I also conquered and sat down with my Father on his throne.Quote Are the members of the Godbody also Jehovah?No, but they are identified as belonging to Jehovah. His name…[Read more]

Mike,Rev 3:12The one who conquers, I will make him a pillar in the temple of my God. Never shall he go out of it, and I will write on him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem, which comes down from my God out of heaven, and my own new name.I suppose YHVH our righteousness could be written and that one name…[Read more]

Well Mike,Scripture tells us that Jehovah is both the God of gods and the Lord of lords and that there is one God, the Father and one Lord, Jesus Christ…also that Jesus Christ is the Lord of lords. So, I didn't make it up…it is written. The position that Jesus gained that He did not have before was the position of the kinsman redeemer and High…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ June 24 2013,11:02)Quote (Lightenup @ June 24 2013,09:02)Quote (terraricca @ June 23 2013,10:33)Quote (Lightenup @ June 23 2013,12:37)The action was taking someone who was eternal life, from one place and moving Him to another…He was brought forth. The action was not bringing someone to life that didn't exist.YHVH was…[Read more]