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    Bo,I haven't put the time and energy into this passage. I believe Jesus' words to be true and read them as such. I found this article that explains your quetions. If you are truly seeking to reconcile this passage then I encourage you to ask people who have studied it to a great degree of consideration. See here for…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 12 years, 9 months ago

    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 30 2013,06:15)Quote (Lightenup @ July 21 2013,23:10)Mike,you said:Quote So yes, Jesus is the savior that my God Jehovah SENT into the world.  But no, he is not my God.  Only the Father holds that position for me.Can you admit that Peter calls the Son 'our God and Savior, Jesus Christ' in this verse:2 Peter 1:1 From S…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 12 years, 9 months ago

    Mike,2 Peter 1:1 and 2 Peter 1:13 are both grammatically phrased the same way.2 Peter 1:1http://interlinearbible.org/2_peter/1-1.htm2 Peter 1:11http://interlinearbible.org/2_peter/1-11.htmLet Peter be Peter…you don't have to interfere and twist what he wrote as inspired by the Holy Spirit.You know and admit that Jesus is a theos and you know and…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 12 years, 9 months ago

    Quote (kerwin @ July 29 2013,23:37)Kathy,You do realize that Godhead is an archaic term whose original definition was equivalent to what more modern translations use?Kerwin,Whatever…Kerwin. You should be more concerned about the Father and the Son both being in the Godly headship of the church., imo. The principal of Godhead is right there.

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 12 years, 9 months ago

    Quote (terraricca @ July 23 2013,22:23)Quote (Lightenup @ July 24 2013,00:02)Quote (terraricca @ July 22 2013,19:45)Quote (Lightenup @ July 23 2013,05:07)Pierre,Do you agree that sometimes the Father is called Lord and at other places called God/god in the Bible?Do you agree that sometimes the Son is called Lord and at other places called God/god…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 12 years, 9 months ago

    Mike,Both are correct. Jesus is the only Begotten God and He is the Son of God, His Begetter. They are one…a compound unity.

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    Bo, I know that they saw Jesus on earth after He ascended to heaven to receive all authority in heaven and on earth. He tells Mary at the tomb not to touch Him because He has not yet ascended to the Father and then tells her to tell His disciples that He is going to the Father. Later, He meets them and tells them that all authority in heaven and…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 12 years, 9 months ago

    Quote (terraricca @ July 22 2013,19:45)Quote (Lightenup @ July 23 2013,05:07)Pierre,Do you agree that sometimes the Father is called Lord and at other places called God/god in the Bible?Do you agree that sometimes the Son is called Lord and at other places called God/god in the Bible?kathiyes but that does not make you a strait flush  :DWhat it…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 12 years, 9 months ago

    Mike,Peter calls them both our God. Face it.And yes, one of them is someone other than the other one.

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 12 years, 9 months ago

    Pierre,Do you agree that sometimes the Father is called Lord and at other places called God/god in the Bible?Do you agree that sometimes the Son is called Lord and at other places called God/god in the Bible?

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 12 years, 9 months ago

    Pierre,Both of those verses are grammatically the same in these regards and need to be translated in a consistent manner…the bias of man is guiding your mis-understanding as you translate both verses in a completely different manner. Please realize that God the Father is called both God in some places and Lord in other places also. You have…[Read more]

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    Bo,you asked:Quote Matthew 24:30-34King James Version (KJV)30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall…[Read more]

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    I will pray for your safety, t8, as well as your family's. Do you know if this is close to Is 1:18 or Nick?

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 12 years, 9 months ago

    Pierre,Do you believe this verse is about two persons:2 Peter 1:11For thus an entrance into the eternal kingdom of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, will be richly provided for you.

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 12 years, 9 months ago

    Mike,you said:Quote So yes, Jesus is the savior that my God Jehovah SENT into the world. But no, he is not my God. Only the Father holds that position for me.Can you admit that Peter calls the Son 'our God and Savior, Jesus Christ' in this verse:2 Peter 1:1 From Simeon Peter, a slave and apostle of Jesus Christ, to those who through the…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 12 years, 9 months ago

    Quote (terraricca @ July 21 2013,09:31)Quote (Lightenup @ July 21 2013,11:43)Mike,Can you call that Servant your God and Savior, Jesus Christ? Or do you deny that He is our God and Savior, Jesus Christ?Rev 22:20 He who testifies to these things says, “Yes, I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus. Rev 22:21 The grace of the Lord Jesus be with God…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 21 2013,20:30)Thanks t8 and Kathi.  :)(How could you do it without an old embed code?)It's top secret Mike. If we told you, then we would have to, ummm, shoot you, lol. JUST KIDDING EVERYONE :;): Actually, since there was more than one selection of the video, I just chose the selection with the old embed code and got the rest…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 12 years, 9 months ago

    Mike,Can you call that Servant your God and Savior, Jesus Christ? Or do you deny that He is our God and Savior, Jesus Christ?

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