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Lightenup replied to the topic Did God create all things through the Lord Jesus Christ? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 8 months ago
gadam123,
You wrote:
This is purely the NT writers’ imagination and the Christian dogma. There is nothing available in the Hebrew Bible to support it.
I would think that, you , as a skeptic, would be merely skeptical, but with that statement, you write as if you are an authority and know for sure of what you wrote.
I’m skeptical about you b…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The Yahweh Unity in the forum Truth or Tradition 3 years, 8 months ago
Mike,
Thanks for your prayers, I’m already much better.
Regarding John 17:11, go to the interlinear and look at the pronoun “which” and you will see that it is neuter and singular just like the word “name” not male and plural which it would be if it meant to refer to “those”.
That proves that it is the Father’s name that was given to Jesus and…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The Yahweh Unity in the forum Truth or Tradition 3 years, 8 months ago
Mike,
You asked:
1. Is there any explicit scriptural indication that Peter and John were aware of this “Yahweh Unity”?
2. Is there any explicit scriptural indication that Peter and John ever taught us about this “Yahweh Unity”?
If yes, then please identify the particular words from Peter and/or John where they teach us these things. Thanks.
Lightenup replied to the topic We believe… in the forum Truth or Tradition 3 years, 8 months ago
Hi gadam123,
How do you, being a skeptic, determine truth? Also, why are you here on HN?
Lightenup replied to the topic The Yahweh Unity in the forum Truth or Tradition 3 years, 8 months ago
Mike,
You said:
And if Jesus is a member of the “Yahweh” against whom the nations raged, then as the anointed one OF that Yahweh, Jesus would be an anointed one of… Jesus!
Jesus would be the anointed one of the Yahweh Unity. The Yahweh Unity is called Yahweh, not Jesus. Jesus is the name of one of the members who became flesh as the Messia…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The Yahweh Unity in the forum Truth or Tradition 3 years, 8 months ago
Mike,
You said:
We can keep doing this, verse by verse, for the entire Bible. Or are you ready to concede that the word “god” always refers to a person (or a physical representation thereof) who is thought to have powers over nature and the affairs of man?
I already showed you “whose god is their belly” so that would dispel your “always refe…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The Yahweh Unity in the forum Truth or Tradition 3 years, 8 months ago
Mike,
You said:
But any way you slice it, the Father and Son – according to what the scriptures actually teach (and not what you WANT them to teach) – are two different gods… one of them unbegotten and invisible, and the other one begotten and visible.
If they are two different gods then they would be gods to different people groups but they…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The Yahweh Unity in the forum Truth or Tradition 3 years, 8 months ago
Hi Mike,
I have been not feeling well (thanks for asking) but will try to address a question here and there.
Starting with this:
You asked:
If “begotten” is simply a metaphorical way of saying that God has set a new king on an old throne, then it would most certainly also apply to Solomon, and all the kings who came after him. So if that…
Lightenup replied to the topic The Yahweh Unity in the forum Truth or Tradition 3 years, 8 months ago
Mike,
You said:
John 1:18… No one has seen God at any time. The only begotten god, who is in the bosom of the Father, he has explained Him.
I’m no rocket scientist, but if there is a god that no one has ever seen, and an only-begotten god “which we have seen with our own eyes and touched with our own hands” (1 John 1:1), then they are TWO diffe…
Lightenup replied to the topic The Yahweh Unity in the forum Truth or Tradition 3 years, 9 months ago
You are welcome, videos that show that are not rare. Many people get it, Danny.
I look forward to a post from you as to what you agree and/or disagree with from this post copied here:
You said:
Yes, they are a unity but I don’t think
they are a Yahweh unity.
Because Yahweh is the Father. Jesus is His Son.
Two separate individuals.
You do r…Lightenup replied to the topic Daily Devotions in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 3 years, 9 months ago
Thanks for the encouraging meditations, Berean.
Have a great day! LU
Lightenup replied to the topic The Yahweh Unity in the forum Truth or Tradition 3 years, 9 months ago
For Danny:
Lightenup replied to the topic We believe… in the forum Truth or Tradition 3 years, 9 months ago
Hi gadam123,
You said:
I know you will not leave me freely with your unending questions.
Are my questions bothering you?
You said that Jesus might be a historical person of the first century, why “might be?”
Also, are you aware of there being many testimonies of NDE’s from people who were clinically dead but came back to life?
Lightenup replied to the topic The Yahweh Unity in the forum Truth or Tradition 3 years, 9 months ago
Hi Danny,
I’m glad that you feel you can understand my position. What do you agree with and what do you question/disagree with?
I’m happy to pray for your search 🙂
May the LORD bless you, LU
Lightenup replied to the topic The Yahweh Unity in the forum Truth or Tradition 3 years, 9 months ago
Hi Danny,
You said:
Yes, they are a unity but I don’t think
they are a Yahweh unity.
Because Yahweh is the Father. Jesus is His Son.
Two separate individuals.You do realize that I agree that the Father and the Son are two separate individuals, right? I happen to believe that the Father gave his name “Yahweh” to his son, like some fathers do (…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The Yahweh Unity in the forum Truth or Tradition 3 years, 9 months ago
Mike,
You asked:
Jesus is one of God’s many heavenly sons. He is a son of God. Why? Do you believe that Jesus is God’s only son?
Is Jesus the only begotten son of God or one of many begotten sons of God?
Lightenup replied to the topic The Yahweh Unity in the forum Truth or Tradition 3 years, 9 months ago
Mike,
You asked:
I’m also waiting for you to tell me which particular word in Gen 1:1 refers to a person/persons.
elohim
Lightenup replied to the topic The Yahweh Unity in the forum Truth or Tradition 3 years, 9 months ago
Mike,
You asked:
…why Peter and John, in their prayer in Acts 4, identify Jesus as the servant of the God who created the heaven, earth, sea, and all that is in them – not the Creator of those things… and as the anointed one of the Yahweh against whom the nations rage – and not Yahweh Himself.
Like a missionary is a servant of the church…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The Yahweh Unity in the forum Truth or Tradition 3 years, 9 months ago
Mike,
You said:
It appears that most of the commentators say it is about Jesus…
It is applied to Jesus, for sure but in the sense as one of the kings in the line of the Davidic kings so, yes, it is applied to Jesus as the ultimate Davidic son turned king but it is applied to others in the line of the Davidic kings also.
Lightenup replied to the topic The Yahweh Unity in the forum Truth or Tradition 3 years, 9 months ago
Mike,
You said:
Matthew 7:13… Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and many enter through it.
All underlined words are genitive. Certainly this doesn’t mean that the gate is the “instrument” that does the actual entering for us, right?
Mike, when the word following dia is genitive a…[Read more]
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