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Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 12 years, 9 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 06 2013,18:17)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 05 2013,21:34)If you believe that Jehovah is the MOST HIGH theos, then yes there are other writings of Peter's that support that claim.First read Isaiah 8:12 neither fear ye their fear, nor be afraid.13Sanctify the LORD of hosts himself; and let him be your fear, and let him be your…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic LU and BD Biblical discussion cont'd in the forum Debates 12 years, 9 months ago
Bo, No one has seen Jehovah in His fullest form. Moses spoke with God face to face and he saw the backside of God. Stephen saw Jesus standing at the right hand of God.Also, the word God and the word Lord are both words used to identify Jehovah as well as gods and lords who are not Jehovah.Psalms 8:6 shows two who are both called Jehovah and the NT…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 12 years, 9 months ago
2besee,I'm sure Keith can answer the question himself. He hasn't yet, and since this is a group thread and I thought you were more interested in how your question could be answered rather than who answered it, I gave you an answer. The answer I gave you should be sufficient from the trinitarian viewpoint as well. Now that you have seen my answer…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Terraricca and 2b in the forum The Hot Seat 12 years, 9 months ago
Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 06 2013,16:26)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 06 2013,16:22)Keith,you said:Quote I never said the Holy Spirit is some non-personal force or non-personal power.I never said that you profess that, I was just clarifying it so you would realize that I am also not saying the Holy Spirit is a non-personal force or power either;…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Terraricca and 2b in the forum The Hot Seat 12 years, 9 months ago
Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 06 2013,16:21)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 06 2013,16:03)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 06 2013,15:42)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 06 2013,14:57)Keith,you said:Quote The scriptures declare the Holy Spirit as a living entity that recieves, hears, speaks, glorifies, teaches, comforts, grieves, can be blasphemed and is subject to…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Terraricca and 2b in the forum The Hot Seat 12 years, 9 months ago
Keith,you said:Quote I never said the Holy Spirit is some non-personal force or non-personal power.I never said that you profess that, I was just clarifying it so you would realize that I am also not saying the Holy Spirit is a non-personal force or power either; which seemed to be implied by you in your previous post as the only other option if…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Terraricca and 2b in the forum The Hot Seat 12 years, 9 months ago
Pierre,What about what I believe is unscriptural? If it IS scriptural, then aren't we doing well to say we 'believe' it??? Yes or no?
Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 12 years, 9 months ago
Pierre,1 John 5 goes on to say that having the Son equates to having eternal life:11And this is the testimony, that God gave us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. 12Whoever has the Son has life; whoever does not have the Son of God does not have life.
Lightenup replied to the topic Terraricca and 2b in the forum The Hot Seat 12 years, 9 months ago
Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 06 2013,15:42)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 06 2013,14:57)Keith,you said:Quote The scriptures declare the Holy Spirit as a living entity that recieves, hears, speaks, glorifies, teaches, comforts, grieves, can be blasphemed and is subject to Jesus and the Father. The definition of something with those attributes is a…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 12 years, 9 months ago
Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 06 2013,12:54)Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 06 2013,11:09)SINS THERE ARE NO SCRIPTURES THAT SAYS THAT CHRIST THE SON OF GOD IS “THE ETERNAL LIFE” BUT ONLY THAT “THROUGH HIM WE CAN OBTAIN ETERNAL LIFE “OR EVERLASTING LIFE, SO AGAIN YOUR TEACHINGS ARE FALSE,That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 12 years, 9 months ago
Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 04 2013,11:04)Quote (2besee @ Aug. 03 2013,20:55)WJ,Numbers 23:19 God is not a man, that he should lie, nor the son of man, that he should repent. Has he said, and will he not do it? Or has he spoken, and will he not make it good?God is not a man.Before you say that that was BEFORE He became a man – That cannot be,…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 12 years, 9 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 04 2013,19:43)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 04 2013,12:45)Regarding Matt 16:16, I am not denying that He is also the Son of God.But there is no hint of “also” in Matthew 16:16. There is only “THE living God”, and the Son and Messiah OF “THE living God”. Which one of those two is Jesus? Is he THE living God? Or the other one…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 12 years, 9 months ago
Besee,I gave you a response to that same question but you did not address it. Did you see it?
Lightenup replied to the topic Terraricca and 2b in the forum The Hot Seat 12 years, 9 months ago
David's regenerated spirit is with the LORD but his body remains in the grave-decayed. Is death not the separation of spirit from the body? In a casket at a funeral, there lies a body without the spirit…right?
Lightenup replied to the topic Terraricca and 2b in the forum The Hot Seat 12 years, 9 months ago
Keith,you said:Quote The scriptures declare the Holy Spirit as a living entity that recieves, hears, speaks, glorifies, teaches, comforts, grieves, can be blasphemed and is subject to Jesus and the Father. The definition of something with those attributes is a living person and not some force or power.Our spirit (the one common to man) is also a…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic LU and BD Biblical discussion cont'd in the forum Debates 12 years, 9 months ago
The translators who call Jesus 'our God and Savior' are not only calling Jesus God but also the Father. Jehovah who is both, the God of gods and the Lord of lords does not give His glory to another. The Father and the Son are together the God of gods and the Lord of lords who does not give His glory to another.
Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 12 years, 9 months ago
Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 06 2013,09:17)Quote (t8 @ Aug. 05 2013,17:44)Jesus said to them, 'ye are theos'. He did not say to anyone of them, 'you are a god'. If the Judges were theos, and the Pharisees held the seat of Moses, then they qualify as 'theos'. But that doesn't mean that Nicodemus was a god.t8You are right, Jesus never said anyone…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Terraricca and 2b in the forum The Hot Seat 12 years, 9 months ago
Keith,Our spirit which is common to man, is directed by the man but is not considered a separate person. So, I don't see the validity of your explanation.
Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 12 years, 9 months ago
Pierre,The word 'life' can mean different things. You are one life among many here on HN. The Word 'life' in that sentence is another word for living person. Your wife has brought forth new life when she gave birth to your offspring. Here also 'life' is a word for a living person. Pro-choice activists hope to save 'one life at a time.' That is…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Terraricca and 2b in the forum The Hot Seat 12 years, 9 months ago
Keith,From what you are saying, the spirit of a person is actually a part of the person. I agree with that. It also seems that you are saying that the Spirit of God is a part of God which I agree with also. Do you still believe the Spirit of God is a third person in the Godhead though as opposed to a united part of the two persons in the…[Read more]
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