Keith,An investigation into the power of demons would be insightful here. If they can do supernatural type of things and be within people or influence people, the people themselves can appear like gods when the demon is working in a supernatural way through them.

Good thread idea, Keith!I think this is a relevant passage to study in this regard:Deuteronomy15 “But Jeshurun grew fat, and kicked;you grew fat, stout, and sleek;then he forsook God who made himand scoffed at the Rock of his salvation.16 They stirred him to jealousy with strange gods;with abominations they provoked him to anger.17 They s…[Read more]

You will be laughing out loud at this guy…so hilarious!

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 08 2013,20:14)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 07 2013,19:49)His beginning was in regards to a begettal, not a creation.At least two scriptures say differently. And look at this page.  The first thing they list after the big word “beget” is “create“.Anyone who has ever been begotten has also been created, Kathi.  You think Jesus i…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 11 2013,19:05)kathyQuote Pierre,We don't “learn” the Spirit into us. The Spirit is sent when we respond to the call of God and accept Jesus as Lord of all even when we do not understand much of anything. When God's Spirit is within us, it renews our mind and spirit but does not become our mind and spirit. I say :Quote the…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 07 2013,22:51)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 08 2013,09:30)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 06 2013,17:40)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 06 2013,16:40)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 06 2013,16:26)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 06 2013,16:22)Keith,you said:Quote I never said the Holy Spirit is some non-personal force or non-personal power.I never…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 09 2013,10:35)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 07 2013,22:30)Their Omnipresent Spirit can hear, speak, grieve, etc and yet not be a distinct person. Their Omnipresent Spirit is one part of their personal 'tripartness' which is Their way of remaining in one place yet extending everywhere beyond that one place as directed by…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 11 2013,10:37)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 10 2013,13:14) Quote (mikeboll @ 64)Are you saying that only “Jehovah the Son” is “Jehovah of hosts”, and Jehovah the Father is NOT “Jehovah of hosts”?I'm not saying one way or the other as I have not done an exhaustive study on this.So how do you know the “Jehovah of hosts” in Isaiah…[Read more]

Mike,Quote Are you saying that only “Jehovah the Son” is “Jehovah of hosts”, and Jehovah the Father is NOT “Jehovah of hosts”?I'm not saying one way or the other as I have not done an exhaustive study on this. It is possible. Names of Jehovah are interchangeable for the Father and Son so it might be with this as well. Why, do you know of a passage…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 08 2013,20:16)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 07 2013,20:13)Does Isaiah 8 identify the Jehovah of hosts as Jehovah the speaker or someone other than Jehovah the speaker?Jehovah of hosts is the one speaking.Mike,Hmmmmm…are you trying to be deceptive?Please answer this regarding 1 Peter 2:6For this is contained in Scripture:…[Read more]

Bo,Jesus was ready to suffer and die because He had accomplished all that He was sent to do during His life, His work was done regarding how He was to live. He did not have to do a work in order to die…He did not kill Himself. The killing was the work of those who beat Him and crucified Him, Jesus didn't work to bear the sins either, He received…[Read more]

Jesus didn't have all the sins on Him when He was sent into the desert (wilderness). They were put on Him after He suffered and hung on the cross, just before He died. Sorry, you are wrong.

Mike,your incomplete list:Quote This is the church I belong to, Kathi. The one that recognizes Jesus as the Son, Messiah, Servant, Lamb, Prophet and Priest OF “the living God”. Now keep the list going…why stop at who Jesus is to His Father, hmmmm? Are you afraid to list who Jesus is to His Church?Jesus is our righteous God and Savior, our…[Read more]

Sorry Bo, I have no desire for what you call the truth and to be oppressed by the same spirits that are having their way with you. You think you have found the truth but you are the one asking most all the questions which I have taken time to try to answer. I can only pray for you now. Take care my friend and thank you for your time.Perhaps you…[Read more]

Pierre,Col 1:15 says 'firstborn' not 'first-created' which I have pointed out to you a bizillion times already. There is a greek word for 'first-created' but it isn't used there. You should not believe something that is not there.

Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 07 2013,16:34)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 08 2013,02:55)Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 07 2013,03:13)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 07 2013,11:08)Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 06 2013,17:36)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 07 2013,03:13)Pierre,1 John 5 goes on to say that having the Son equates to having eternal life:11And this is the testimony, that…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 06 2013,16:17)Pierre,What about what I believe is unscriptural? If it IS scriptural, then aren't we doing well to say we 'believe' it??? Yes or no?Pierre,Please answer these questions. thx

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 06 2013,17:40)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 06 2013,16:40)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 06 2013,16:26)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 06 2013,16:22)Keith,you said:Quote I never said the Holy Spirit is some non-personal force or non-personal power.I never said that you profess that, I was just clarifying it so you would realize…[Read more]

Bo,You say things like this even though I have shown you how what you believe 2 Peter 1:1 should be translated is NOT the way it should be translated and proved that to you by showing you the inconsistency of how 2 Peter 1:11 was translated. They are BOTH the same word construction. Yet you completely ignore the evidence. You ignore the evidence…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 07 2013,17:37)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 06 2013,22:30)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 06 2013,19:20)So, IN THE CONTEXT OF MATTHEW 16:16, is Jesus “THE living God”?  Or the other one?Mike,The 'Living God' in Matt 16:16 is the Father……… Matt 16 mentions the two but applies the term 'Living God' to the Father in that…[Read more]