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    Sorry Bo, I have no desire for what you call the truth and to be oppressed by the same spirits that are having their way with you. You think you have found the truth but you are the one asking most all the questions which I have taken time to try to answer. I can only pray for you now. Take care my friend and thank you for your time.Perhaps you…[Read more]

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    Pierre,Col 1:15 says 'firstborn' not 'first-created' which I have pointed out to you a bizillion times already. There is a greek word for 'first-created' but it isn't used there. You should not believe something that is not there.

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 12 years, 9 months ago

    Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 07 2013,16:34)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 08 2013,02:55)Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 07 2013,03:13)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 07 2013,11:08)Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 06 2013,17:36)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 07 2013,03:13)Pierre,1 John 5 goes on to say that having the Son equates to having eternal life:11And this is the testimony, that…[Read more]

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    Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 06 2013,16:17)Pierre,What about what I believe is unscriptural? If it IS scriptural, then aren't we doing well to say we 'believe' it??? Yes or no?Pierre,Please answer these questions. thx

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 06 2013,17:40)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 06 2013,16:40)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 06 2013,16:26)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 06 2013,16:22)Keith,you said:Quote I never said the Holy Spirit is some non-personal force or non-personal power.I never said that you profess that, I was just clarifying it so you would realize…[Read more]

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    Bo,You say things like this even though I have shown you how what you believe 2 Peter 1:1 should be translated is NOT the way it should be translated and proved that to you by showing you the inconsistency of how 2 Peter 1:11 was translated. They are BOTH the same word construction. Yet you completely ignore the evidence. You ignore the evidence…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 12 years, 9 months ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 07 2013,17:37)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 06 2013,22:30)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 06 2013,19:20)So, IN THE CONTEXT OF MATTHEW 16:16, is Jesus “THE living God”?  Or the other one?Mike,The 'Living God' in Matt 16:16 is the Father……… Matt 16 mentions the two but applies the term 'Living God' to the Father in that…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 12 years, 9 months ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 07 2013,17:42)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 06 2013,23:00)To show you that the Bible commentator scholars can see this…………..Kathi,There is not one shred of scriptural evidence that even hints at the possibility of Jesus existing from eternity.  On the contrary, there are loads of scriptures that speak of him having a…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 12 years, 9 months ago

    Mike, v. 15 isn't bolded because the words are not quoted but replaced for revealing that the Jehovah of hosts is Christ the Lord. It would be wrong to bold the words 'Christ the Lord' because Jesus is not called that till the New Testament and thus is not the name of Him that was used in the OT in that passage. The NT clarifies the OT here.…[Read more]

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    Perfect example of “YOU ignoring obvious things” that I show you:Quote You ever notice it never says”God our Son” or “God the Son”?That is a strange response from someone who has recently been shown that Jesus is called our God and Savior in 2 Peter 1:1 and in 1 Peter 3:10-15 He is shown to be the Jehovah of hosts from Isaiah 8. After that…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 12 years, 9 months ago

    Quote (t8 @ Aug. 05 2013,02:43)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 04 2013,03:35)t8You should tell the whole story. You believe in one god the Father and one god the son.Why play the caps game?You say Jesus is “a god” like the JWs.You worship god the Father and “a god” the Son.That is Mystery Babylon!  :)WJA very low score WJ.Try and aim for…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 12 years, 9 months ago

    Mike,The NET notes are notes about how the words are chosen to translate and the structure in which they translate. It is not a Bible commentary so that is probably why they didn't include a commentary of the passage. They did say that it was a quote of Isaiah 8. Open your eyes.Also, I already know that Jehovah our Righteousness, our God and…[Read more]

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    Ok Bo, I always want more insight from the God of gods and the Lord of lords.I wish you well on your search for truth and I pray that what I have discussed with you will lead you closer to that truth. It has been my pleasure to attempt to tackle your questions…I love you too and hope the best for you. If you have any more to say to me, put it…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 12 years, 9 months ago

    Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 07 2013,00:08)Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 06 2013,17:36)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 07 2013,03:13)Pierre,1 John 5 goes on to say that having the Son equates to having eternal life:11And this is the testimony, that God gave us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. 12Whoever has the Son has life; whoever does not have the Son…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 12 years, 9 months ago

    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 07 2013,10:27)Quote (2besee @ Aug. 06 2013,16:35)So, Wj, do you want this to be a hot seat topic because you are still IGNORING my post completely!I will set it up as soon as I can.Hey bud!I don't know what your beef is but I think Kathi has answered you will. That is why I didn't answer.I am limited for time and…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 12 years, 9 months ago

    Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 07 2013,03:13)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 07 2013,11:08)Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 06 2013,17:36)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 07 2013,03:13)Pierre,1 John 5 goes on to say that having the Son equates to having eternal life:11And this is the testimony, that God gave us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. 12Whoever has the Son…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 12 years, 9 months ago

    Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 06 2013,17:36)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 07 2013,03:13)Pierre,1 John 5 goes on to say that having the Son equates to having eternal life:11And this is the testimony, that God gave us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. 12Whoever has the Son has life; whoever does not have the Son of God does not have life.kATHIyes…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 12 years, 9 months ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 06 2013,19:31)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 06 2013,15:13)Pierre,1 John 5 goes on to say that having the Son equates to having eternal life:11And this is the testimony, that God gave us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. 12Whoever has the Son has life; whoever does not have the Son of God does not have life.And that's…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 12 years, 9 months ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 06 2013,18:21)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 05 2013,21:34)33just as it is written,            “BEHOLD, I LAY IN ZION A STONE OF STUMBLING AND A ROCK OF OFFENSE,Yes, Jesus indeed is the stumbling block that Jehovah laid in Zion.But we can talk more about this verse if and when you agree to do this same kind of discussion on the…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 12 years, 9 months ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 06 2013,19:20)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 06 2013,14:03)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 04 2013,19:43)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 04 2013,12:45)Regarding Matt 16:16, I am not denying that He is also the Son of God.But there is no hint of “also” in Matthew 16:16.  There is only “THE living God”, and the Son and Messiah OF “THE living…[Read more]

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