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    Bo,See my signature. :p

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    It doesn't really matter whether or not it is 'a theos' or 'theos' or 'the theos' in John 1:1. Jesus is called the theos multiple times, even our theos. When will He be yours?

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 12 years, 9 months ago

    Mike,Quote Consider that in 1 Kings 11:33, Ashtoreth the goddess of the Sidonians, Chemosh the god of the Moabites, and Molek the god of the Ammonites are called “elohim” individually. And they are all “single entities”.And where do you get that idea??because they have forsaken Me, and have worshiped Ashtoreth the  godess of the Sidonians,…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 12 years, 9 months ago

    Mike,Quote Also consider that in 1 Kings 1:33, David is called by the plural form “masters” – even though he is a “single entity”.Huh?? Where do you get that?The king said to them, “Take with you the servants of your lord, and have my son Solomon ride on my own mule, and bring him down to Gihon.

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 15 2013,20:06)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 15 2013,14:58)1 Chronicles 1625For great is the LORD, and greatly to be praised;  He also is to be feared above all gods.How can Jehovah be feared ABOVE the OTHER gods if He is literally the ONLY one?   ???  I really want to hear an answer to this question from somebody.Quote (L…[Read more]

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    Mike,Quote So I can't figure out if your posts here reflect your desire to be AGAINST me at any cost, or your desire to cozy up to Keith at any cost. Perhaps a little of both? Neither. You should know better.

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    Mike,Quote Kathi, do you believe that Jehovah the Father is LITERALLY the only elohim in existence? YES or NO?)Read my signature and you will find your answer there.

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    Mike,Quote How can Jehovah be feared ABOVE the OTHER gods if He is literally the ONLY one? ??? I really want to hear an answer to this question from somebody.People make things/people gods but they are merely worthless objects of worship. Many people have objects of worship, but it is in vain.

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    Jehovah is the God of gods and the Lord of lords. Jesus is the Lord of lords. We are not in agreement.Abraham, Isaac and Jacob have not had a bodily resurrection yet, just their Spirit is with God, from my understanding.

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    1 Thess 3:11Quote Now may God our Father himself and our Lord Jesus direct our way to you.Here we have two who are directing our way, but the verb 'direct' is singular and not plural. We don't notice that when it is in English.

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    True or False?2 Samuel 7:22″How great you are, Sovereign LORD! There is no one like you, and there is no God (elohim) but you, as we have heard with our own ears.

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    Hi Bo,you said:Quote I believe he God literally saved Jesus from death if he died already that's no different than the rest of us because we will all be resurrected as well. But God saved Jesus from death.If Jesus didn't die and raise from the dead, none of us would be resurrected as well. He was the firstborn from the dead. Quote Keep in mind…[Read more]

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    1 Chronicles 1625For great is the LORD, and greatly to be praised; He also is to be feared above all gods.26For all the gods of the peoples are idols, But the LORD made the heavens.27Splendor and majesty are before Him, Strength and joy are in His place.28Ascribe to the LORD, O families of the peoples, Ascribe to the LORD glory and…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 13 2013,20:12)Okay Keith, You didn't answer the last two posts on page 1, but that's okay.  I want to keep this discussion focused anyway.Right now, the first scripture was brought up by Kathi, so let's finish with that scripture.What we do know is that demons were called gods by Moses.And since Moses gave no indication…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 12 years, 9 months ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 12 2013,20:39)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 11 2013,17:12)14And He hath been for a sanctuary, And for a stone of stumbling, and for a rock of falling, To the two houses of Israel, For a gin and for a snare to the inhabitants of Jerusalem.Please answer:Who is identified as the stone and rock in Isaiah 8.Jehovah is the rock in…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 12 years, 9 months ago

    Quote (david @ Aug. 14 2013,22:09)Quote The definition of polytheism is “The worship of or belief in more than one god.”Does the bible anywhere condemn “belief in more than one god.”?Wj, you believe in Jesus, who you would call godYou believe in the father, who you would call god. Some would say that makes you a polytheist.  The bible does…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 12 years, 9 months ago

    Quote (t8 @ Aug. 14 2013,19:24)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 13 2013,08:59)LOLYou guys are to funny.You guys believe and and bow down to and serve 2 gods, the Father who you say is god and Jesus who you say is a god.When you laugh, do so while looking in the mirror and take a good hard look at what manner of man you are.To correct your bearing…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 12 years, 9 months ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 12 2013,20:48)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 12 2013,14:19)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 12 2013,12:59)LOLYou guys are to funny.You guys believe and and bow down to and serve 2 gods, the Father who you say is god and Jesus who you say is a god.Good post Keith!He's laughing at YOUR belief, Kathi…….. not ours.  We worship and…[Read more]

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    Bo,Being saved from dying isn't the same as being saved from death.The scripture is not a mistake. Jesus flesh died but after three days…no longer dead. :)Jesus was tempted to avoid the cup yet did not give in to that temptation. Jesus was tempted yet without sin.

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 12 years, 9 months ago

    Good post Keith!We know that Jehovah would have us NOT invoke the name of 'another god' or bow down to another 'god' and we also certainly know that Jesus is a theos whose name is invoked and who is bowed down to. Either Jesus is Jehovah also in some manner, or He is another god like Mike and t8 talk about.

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