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Lightenup replied to the topic The Yahweh Unity in the forum Truth or Tradition 3 years, 7 months ago
Mike,
You said:
And no, “el” is not “one of God’s literal names”. El means god, and god is a title, not a literal personal name.
It is often used as a name for Yahweh. It also can be used as a title.
Lightenup replied to the topic The Yahweh Unity in the forum Truth or Tradition 3 years, 7 months ago
Mike,
You asked:
Really? In what NT scripture can I read this literal name of God as Jesus was making it known to his followers?
Whenever Jesus referred to Yahweh as his father, he identifies his father’s name to his followers. For instance, when he was 12 years old and stayed behind from the caravan and was found teaching in the temple, Jesus…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The Yahweh Unity in the forum Truth or Tradition 3 years, 7 months ago
Mike,
Paul would give the same answer.
Lightenup replied to the topic The Yahweh Unity in the forum Truth or Tradition 3 years, 7 months ago
Mike,
You asked: Why not just teach your understanding using terminology that IS in the Bible?
You mean like this:
Deut 10:17 For the LORD your God is the God of gods and the Lord of lords, the great, the mighty, and the awesome God, who does not show partiality, nor take a bribe.
Rev 17:14 These will wage war against the Lamb, and the Lamb…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The Yahweh Unity in the forum Truth or Tradition 3 years, 7 months ago
Mike,
You said:
Yes, John calls Jesus the only begotten Son of God in John 3:16.
Very good. I call Jesus the only begotten Son of God too. Therefore all other sons of God are not begotten in the manner in which Jesus was. Agree?
Yes, I could call Jesus my God and Savior, but I don’t.
Whose God and Savior is He besides Peter’s?
A god is an en…
Lightenup replied to the topic The Yahweh Unity in the forum Truth or Tradition 3 years, 7 months ago
Mike,
You asked:
Kathi, do YOU think the word “name” in John 17:26 refers to God’s literal name?
Yes.
I already answered the second question in that post, btw.
Lightenup replied to the topic The Yahweh Unity in the forum Truth or Tradition 3 years, 7 months ago
Mike,
“Math quiz”
#1. c
#2. none of the above, there is one God and one Lord.
Lightenup replied to the topic The Yahweh Unity in the forum Truth or Tradition 3 years, 7 months ago
Mike,
You said:
That isn’t “clarification”, Kathi… it’s a complete re-write of what the verse actually teaches.
I’m not rewriting a verse, I’m summing up several Biblical concepts.
Lightenup replied to the topic The Yahweh Unity in the forum Truth or Tradition 3 years, 8 months ago
Berean,
Specifically, what is the real problem?
I can quote a Bible translation all day long on here but when people will reply as if the scripture does not say what I understand it to say, then I have to use other words to clarify how I believe it does. Like a Bible commentator uses other words to explain the text, so do I. If I were to use t…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The Yahweh Unity in the forum Truth or Tradition 3 years, 8 months ago
Hi Berean,
Thanks for your question? Please specify which terms that I use that, according to you, do not convey Biblical concepts.
Thanks, LU
Lightenup replied to the topic Did God create all things through the Lord Jesus Christ? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 8 months ago
Actually, Peter did the merging of the titles into the same person…twice, not me. He also calls Jesus our Lord and Savior in the same chapter with the very same Greek structure. This is undeniable.
2 Peter 1:1…To those who through the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ have received a faith as precious as ours:
2 Peter 1:11and…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Did God create all things through the Lord Jesus Christ? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 8 months ago
Good words Proclaimer:
You said:
Further, if Jesus is CALLED “The Lord, then he is the Lord right.
HE is called the Word of God, then he is the Word of God.
Similarly, he is called Jesus, so he is Jesus.
Simple stuff.
I might add if Jesus is CALLED “OUR GOD AND SAVIOR” then he is our God and Savior, right?
Lightenup replied to the topic The Yahweh Unity in the forum Truth or Tradition 3 years, 8 months ago
Mike, you have only answered my questions with questions.
Please clearly answer my questions with a yes or no.
Mike, I’ve been answering a lot of questions for you but you do not answer my questions. Is Jesus the only begotten Son of God in John 3:16?
Also, Mike can you call Jesus your God and Savior?
No more answers from me till you answer t…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The Yahweh Unity in the forum Truth or Tradition 3 years, 8 months ago
Mike,
Please answer my two questions before I continue answering your questions.
Here they are, for your convenience:
Mike, I’ve been answering a lot of questions for you but you do not answer my questions. Is Jesus the only begotten Son of God in John 3:16?
Also, Mike can you call Jesus your God and Savior?
Lightenup replied to the topic The Yahweh Unity in the forum Truth or Tradition 3 years, 8 months ago
Mike,
You said:
Exodus 23:20-22… Behold, I am sending an angel before you… Pay attention to him….since My Name is in him… If you will listen carefully to his voice and do everything I say, I will be an enemy to your enemies…
Kathi, do you think the word “name” in this passage refers to God’s literal name?
Without researching the passage,…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The Yahweh Unity in the forum Truth or Tradition 3 years, 8 months ago
John 3:16
“For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life.
John 17:5 “Now, Father, glorify Me together with Yourself, with the glory which I had with You before the world was.
Mike, I’ve been answering a lot of questions for you but you do not answer my que…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The Yahweh Unity in the forum Truth or Tradition 3 years, 8 months ago
Mike,
For us there is one God team or Godhead, the Unity of Yahweh…the Father who is the only true God and the Son, Jesus Christ, the only begotten God who is our one Lord. They are never acting solo and should not be thought of as two different gods. They rule together, side by side on the throne, not independently of each other.
Lightenup replied to the topic The Yahweh Unity in the forum Truth or Tradition 3 years, 8 months ago
Mike,
You said:
Do you also agree with me that it’s silly to think that a bonafide member of the Most High God will rule from the throne of one of the Most High God’s servants?
A bonafide member of the Unity of Yahweh emptied Himself to become a bondservant to make propitiation of sin for the entire world and after He did that, He regained all…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The Yahweh Unity in the forum Truth or Tradition 3 years, 8 months ago
Mike,
You said:
And even if the singular neuter is the original, it certainly doesn’t mean what you think it does – as I painstakingly pointed out clearly in that same post.
The verse is all you need to see that the Father has given HIS name to the Son and they are ONE. That is enough to show the Unity of Yahweh.
You gave opinions that vary fro…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The Yahweh Unity in the forum Truth or Tradition 3 years, 8 months ago
Hello Mike,
I just got back from being out of town.
Regarding begotten…
There are two instances of the Son as being begotten:
He was begotten:
- from the Father before creation
- from the dead on the third day after His crucifixion
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