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    @t8
    This is your quote:
    “t8 says:
    July 14, 2014 at 12:22 am
    Yes Wakeup. Jesus words are life. Jesus even went as far as saying:
    “This is eternal life, that you may know the only true God, AND Jesus Christ whom HE has sent”.
    Trinitarians have no choice but to disagree with Jesus regarding what eternal life is, if they want to hold onto the…[Read more]

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    Lightenup posted a new activity comment 11 years, 9 months ago

    @t8
    This is your quote:
    “t8 says:
    July 14, 2014 at 12:22 am
    Yes Wakeup. Jesus words are life. Jesus even went as far as saying:
    “This is eternal life, that you may know the only true God, AND Jesus Christ whom HE has sent”.
    Trinitarians have no choice but to disagree with Jesus regarding what eternal life is, if they want to hold onto the…[Read more]

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      John 17:3

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      @t8,
      That reference does not say those words. Look again.

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      You are free to reject his words. I choose to accept them. I can only ultimately be responsible for myself in this regard. I choose to hear his words and encourage others to do so too. I really cannot help beyond that.
      John 17:3
      [color=red]Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have…[Read more]

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      @t8,
      Actually you have written the verse correctly in your last response but incorrectly as you have it in the message you wrote to Wakeup and as you have it in your signature. And, no, I have no intention of rejecting God’s word but only in preserving the correct wording, purpose and emphasis so that the truth not be misconstrued as you are…[Read more]

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      Point taken. Jesus said, “Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent”.

      So for me to respond to that correctly, I then believe that eternal life is to know the ONLY true God AND Jesus Christ whom HE has sent”.

      I could keep my signature as is but remove the quotes, so as to not imply…[Read more]

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      @t8,

      The BB codes are hit and miss. 🙂 I did them all right in that last post, and sometimes they work, other times they don’t. The first time I tried them, they worked until the end of the post too. Maybe there is a limit to how many you can use in one post? 🙂

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 19 2014,17:10)Hi Kathi,Sorry to hear about your mom.I take it that you choose choice #2 in Wm's poll?  God CAN know everything He wants to, but sometimes chooses NOT to know every little detail?Either way, it seems we all agree that God KNOWS what's going to be.  The tricky side-issue of this thread has been:1.  Does Go…[Read more]

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    Thanks William…yes, so thankful for eternal hope!!you said:Quote I'm taking nothing away from God, quite the opposite I believe it adds more glory to what He can accomplish.I'm not sure what your comment is responding to, please clarify. Are you agreeing with my conclusions, which I have made the type bold in my last post, thus far or…

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    Hi 2besee,I am happy for you to get that bp down without meds!! Have you been a vegetarian during the time your bp was 180/110?I would love to hear more about the miracles that God has been doing in your life.

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    Quote (seekingtruth @ Feb. 19 2014,13:35)Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 19 2014,00:42)Hi Wm,These verses talk about things happening that had not come to God's mind:Jer 19:5 and have built the high places of Baal to burn their sons in the fire as burnt offerings to Baal, a thing which I never commanded or spoke of, nor did it ever enter My mind;Jer 7:31…[Read more]

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    Hi 2besee and all,Glad you realized that you needed to cut back/quit your coffee consumption. Water is so much better for you! Coffee does have some health benefits though and is also a stimulant so should not be over indulged or you will be over stimulated. A healthy way to sweeten and cream your coffee is with stevia or local honey and heavy…[Read more]

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    Hi Wm,These verses talk about things happening that had not come to God's mind:Jer 19:5 and have built the high places of Baal to burn their sons in the fire as burnt offerings to Baal, a thing which I never commanded or spoke of, nor did it ever enter My mind;Jer 7:31  “They have built the high places of Topheth, which is in the valley of the…[Read more]

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    Hi Bo,you asked:Quote So what “cup” did Jesus have that John and James also have but that Jesus did not want?I sense that it was torture for believing Jesus was the Son of God which was the 'cup.' Jesus and James died from torture, John didn't. John was tortured by being dipped in hot oil but didn't die as per the legends. He died of old…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 16 2013,17:44)Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 16 2013,13:25)My claim is that this further identifies the two powers of heaven.Well then, go back and read verse 12 again…….. because that verse further identifies that one is a SERVANT of God, and one is God, who deemed that SERVANT worthy to receive much glory, honor, and…[Read more]

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    Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 16 2013,14:36)Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 17 2013,00:24)Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 10 2013,12:14)Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 10 2013,02:12)Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 08 2013,19:26)Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 08 2013,00:53)Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 04 2013,15:28)Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 05 2013,02:16)Jesus is also Lord of all and the First and the Last and…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 11 2013,20:33)Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 09 2013,21:09)Mike,Can you admit that the definite article is there in the Greek………This is the page I searched when I said it wasn't there.  And as you can see, it isn't listed on that page.But I looked deeper, and it is indeed the definite article, which is sometimes translated…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 11 2013,19:56)Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 09 2013,21:08)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 09 2013,19:08)Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 08 2013,21:48)Ask yourself what is this verse saying that existed from the beginning. The answer is the eternal life, i.e. Jesus!And ask YOURSELF why the Father had to GRANT Jesus to also have life in him – if…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 11 2013,19:48)Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 09 2013,21:04)You have a very irresponsible argument there implying that Jesus must not exist at some point because human sons didn't exist at some point.God chose to explain His relationship to Jesus as “Father/Son”.  He explained it this way to HUMAN BEINGS, who would only…[Read more]

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    Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 10 2013,12:14)Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 10 2013,02:12)Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 08 2013,19:26)Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 08 2013,00:53)Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 04 2013,15:28)Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 05 2013,02:16)Jesus is also Lord of all and the First and the Last and Jehovah of hosts. I don't see anywhere that He was 'appointed' as Lord of…[Read more]

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    Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 08 2013,22:43)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 08 2013,10:48)The “the” is not in the Greek text.  And I only found one English Bible that ADDS it…….. the MSG Bible.Also notice that blessing, honor, glory and strength are attributed to both the “one who sits on the throne”, AND to the Lamb.That distinguishes the Lamb as someone…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 09 2013,19:08)Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 08 2013,21:48)Ask yourself what is this verse saying that existed from the beginning. The answer is the eternal life, i.e. Jesus!And ask YOURSELF why the Father had to GRANT Jesus to also have life in him – if he had already had eternal life from eternity.Hmmmm…………..Because He…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 09 2013,19:06)Quote (t8 @ Dec. 08 2013,16:04)Yes Mike. In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. So they must be eternal if Jesus was with God in the beginning and he is eternal. Of course such reasoning is not reasoning at all.And perhaps the disciples were also from eternity, since Jesus said they had been…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 09 2013,19:02)Kathi,Jesus is the SERVANT of our ONE and ONLY Most High God.  In fact, our ONE and ONLY Most High God is also Jesus' ONE and ONLY Most High God.Jesus isn't the Most High God, but the SON of Him.  And ALL sons come into existence AFTER their fathers have already been existing for a while.  If they both st…[Read more]

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    Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 08 2013,19:26)Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 08 2013,00:53)Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 04 2013,15:28)Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 05 2013,02:16)Jesus is also Lord of all and the First and the Last and Jehovah of hosts. I don't see anywhere that He was 'appointed' as Lord of all or the First and the Last or Jehovah of hosts. All things were made…[Read more]

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