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Lightenup replied to the topic Proclaimer vs Lightenup in the forum Debates 11 years, 7 months ago
@t8,
Someday when you are face to face with Jesus and you are giving account for your nasty judgmental words (towards people who worship the Father AND the Son), know that I forgive you.I will continue to worship all persons called theos in scripture that have dominion over all creation for ever and ever. Worry about all the other theos and who…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Does 1 Peter 2 imply that Jesus is God? in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 7 months ago
@kerwin,
Perhaps this will explain it better than I can:For in that he himself hath suffered being tempted,…. By Satan, at his entrance on his public ministry, and a little before his death; which was done, not by stirring up sin in him, for he had none, nor by putting any into him, which could not be done, nor could Satan get any advantage…
Lightenup replied to the topic Does 1 Peter 2 imply that Jesus is God? in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 7 months ago
@kerwin
Luke 1:30The angel said to her, “Do not be afraid, Mary; for you have found favor with God. 31“And behold, you will conceive in your womb and bear a son, and you shall name Him Jesus. 32“He will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High; and the Lord God will give Him the throne of His father David; 33and He will reign over…[Read more]Lightenup replied to the topic Does 1 Peter 2 imply that Jesus is God? in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 7 months ago
@kerwin
Luke 1:30The angel said to her, “Do not be afraid, Mary; for you have found favor with God. 31“And behold, you will conceive in your womb and bear a son, and you shall name Him Jesus. 32“He will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High; and the Lord God will give Him the throne of His father David; 33and He will reign over…[Read more]Lightenup replied to the topic Does 1 Peter 2 imply that Jesus is God? in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 7 months ago
<span class=”reftext”><b>Luke 1:30</b></span>The angel said to her, “Do not be afraid, Mary; for you have found favor with God. <span class=”reftext”><b>31</b></span>“And behold, you will conceive in your womb and bear a son, and you shall name Him Jesus. <span class=”reftext”><b>32</b></span>“He will be great and will be called the Son o…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Does 1 Peter 2 imply that Jesus is God? in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 7 months ago
See what I mean Nick. Look at how your response has nothing to do with what I said.
Lightenup replied to the topic Does 1 Peter 2 imply that Jesus is God? in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 7 months ago
@NickHassan
Do you have a specific thing you want to show me in scripture that does not line up with what I am saying here that is something based on scripture and not the opinion of Nick? Are your opinions rooted in the truth, if so, it should be apparent in your challenge. I have not seem much besides a critical spirit in your comments and…[Read more]Lightenup replied to the topic Does 1 Peter 2 imply that Jesus is God? in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 7 months ago
@NickHassan
He was supernatural, remained supernatural, chose to live in the restraints of the natural to become the firstborn from the dead of many brethren. It is by His death, He calls the saints, His brothers at the same time that He remains their creator to the glory of the Father.You have Him in a box Nick…the Nickbox that says He is not…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Does 1 Peter 2 imply that Jesus is God? in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 7 months ago
Hi Gene,
Both the first and the second Adam were without sin from the get go. The first Adam gave place to sin, Jesus never did. Therefore, Jesus could be the perfect human sacrifice to redeem mankind.
Lightenup replied to the topic Does 1 Peter 2 imply that Jesus is God? in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 7 months ago
Bottom line, although beings, human or otherwise, can and do try to persuade God or man to do something, God will never allow beings to persuade Him to act in a way that is less than perfect love because perfect love, grace and truth fill His heart and His mind so to speak. God has freedom to choose and change His mind but it will ALWAYS…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Does 1 Peter 2 imply that Jesus is God? in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 7 months ago
Bottom line, although beings, human or otherwise, can and do try to persuade God or man to do something, God will never allow beings to persuade Him to act in a way that is less than perfect love because perfect love, grace and truth fill His heart and His mind so to speak. God has freedom to choose and change His mind but it will ALWAYS…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Does 1 Peter 2 imply that Jesus is God? in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 7 months ago
@NickHassan
I believe the duck was a duck, you believe it was a spirit of a duck (whatever that would be). We differ on this. I leave that to the Lord to guide me into truth if I need a different understanding. I will trust Him.Lightenup replied to the topic Does 1 Peter 2 imply that Jesus is God? in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 7 months ago
you said:
To me it is strait forward Jesus was tempted by sin while the one true God cannot be therefore Jesus cannot be God.
Kerwin, from what you said, this is a real hangup for you because you don’t seem to understand this correctly, imo. There is a difference from being tempted to sin from an outside source and feeling tempted to sin…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Does 1 Peter 2 imply that Jesus is God? in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 7 months ago
Nick,
No it is not God’s problem. He is who He is. I’m hoping to know Him better and better as I seek the Father and Son and Spirit without infringing limits upon them. How about you, are you open for them to be different than what you believe now?Lightenup replied to the topic Painful Emotions & Seeking God in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 11 years, 7 months ago
Hi Brian,
Thanks for your answer. Most who acknowledge Jesus as the Messiah have no problem calling Him their Lord. You didn’t say He was your God though, just your Lord. Thomas called Him both. To the church, He is the head and the Father is the head of Him. He calls His head, God.you said:
He’s part of God
What part? Since He is a Son, t…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Does 1 Peter 2 imply that Jesus is God? in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 7 months ago
@t8
you said:There is a ton of assumptions here and little scripture.
I have given you many scriptures over the years. What did I say that you think can not be supported by scripture?
you asked:
Is Eve Adam himself because she walked and talked like a human.
Eve is not Adam and the Son is not the Father. Eve and Adam are however the same…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Does 1 Peter 2 imply that Jesus is God? in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 7 months ago
@NickHassan
The battle is the Lord’s, not mine.Lightenup replied to the topic Does 1 Peter 2 imply that Jesus is God? in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 7 months ago
@kerwin
Here are some thoughts in response to your posts today:
you said:We as a kind were made subject to sin because our own sinned so it follows the we as a kind can only be freed by one of our own doing right.
Jesus is the second Adam, the first Adam was also sinless before eating from the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil.
you also…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Does 1 Peter 2 imply that Jesus is God? in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 7 months ago
you asked:
An offspring from the one true God and yet is the one true God??
That is not what I said.
An offspring from and a part of the one true God and is the same kind of being as the one true God-eternal being.Lightenup replied to the topic Does 1 Peter 2 imply that Jesus is God? in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 7 months ago
you said:
To me it is strait forward Jesus was tempted by sin while the one true God cannot be therefore Jesus cannot be God.
Did you ever consider that is one of the reasons the person of Jesus had to become a man?
You also said:
We already discussed this and you admitted that it could be a case of Jehovah addressing himself in the…
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